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k1attack (Mostrar perfil) 11 de marzo de 2010 15:51:54
You choose!
jan aleksan (Mostrar perfil) 11 de marzo de 2010 16:03:27
Bon Wen seems a bit set aside.
k1attack (Mostrar perfil) 11 de marzo de 2010 16:05:58
jan aleksan:... Toki IO, Ta Ti...What???
Bon Wen seems a bit set aside.
jan aleksan (Mostrar perfil) 11 de marzo de 2010 16:13:35
k1attack:there is no activity since the last time I vizited the website, several months ago.jan aleksan:... Toki IO, Ta Ti...What???
Bon Wen seems a bit set aside.
(Toki IO and Ta Ti are other examples of tokipona-like languages)
k1attack (Mostrar perfil) 11 de marzo de 2010 16:15:56
jan aleksan (Mostrar perfil) 11 de marzo de 2010 16:51:11
k1attack:And what about Puna, Bon Wen and Vuyamu?They are on the top of my list, with Konya, Ilomi and Kaqwan
Greyshades (Mostrar perfil) 11 de marzo de 2010 17:17:11
k1attack:I support Esperanto, but I admit, the minimalistic languages also look really tempting. They're not for idiots, I was wrong. They're made just for fun!!!To me, it seemed that "object-moving-fast" makes more sense, especially when reading. The four parts of speech really help with grammar, and I think "categorizing" the roots by order of importance (isn't that how they classify things in the animal kingdom?) works well.
I think Vuyamu should add an extra word, "li", which could be used before and after a proper name, since every other syllable has a meaning.
Also, I think adjectives should go before a noun, not after it, in order to make compund words easier to understand. E.g. it should be "fasting-moving-object" rather than "object-moving-fast" and the new name of the language will be "Muyavu" (li muyavu li" in the language itself) instead of "Vuyamu".
The 5 "m" roots (ma, mo, mu, me, mi) are sort of quantifiers in my opinion. In my work, I combined "ma" and "mo" into just "mo" because they have the same essential meaning (each/every).
However your idea of using "li" for titles would solve a lot of problems and I think it is great and I'm glad to see your interested in the language.
And for your curiosity:
1. Vuyamu
2. Toki Pona
3. Bon Wen
4. Puna
ceigered (Mostrar perfil) 12 de marzo de 2010 04:38:53
(although that language seems to be currently in a state of developmental flŭ - last time I checked with Jens (a good while ago, maybe May 09?), the creator, he was investigating different orthographies and I think we had a discussion on, for example, the pronunciation of "h" (which is basically a stand in for a whole lot of (loosely) guttural sounds all the way to the alveolar approximate R (English R), but you might as well pronounce it "ĥ" or "h").
But Neo Patwa, strictly speaking, is more pidgin than Toki-Pona-ish (which is conversly also like a pidgin but not the same as Neo Patwa).
BTW - This looks interesting. Not necessarily promising, but interesting as it provides insight as to how a world language may be formed - over time.
This also looks very interesting, not so much because it answers the question of the essay (it doesn't seem to do so very well, at least, I didn't really understand why the initial IAL phonology should be Western-biased - I mean, I kind of do, but using my own reasoning rather than the article's) but because it discusses some interesting topics in language creation.
k1attack (Mostrar perfil) 12 de marzo de 2010 13:08:10
Greyshades:Why Vuyamu? Why not the others?k1attack:I support Esperanto, but I admit, the minimalistic languages also look really tempting. They're not for idiots, I was wrong. They're made just for fun!!!To me, it seemed that "object-moving-fast" makes more sense, especially when reading. The four parts of speech really help with grammar, and I think "categorizing" the roots by order of importance (isn't that how they classify things in the animal kingdom?) works well.
I think Vuyamu should add an extra word, "li", which could be used before and after a proper name, since every other syllable has a meaning.
Also, I think adjectives should go before a noun, not after it, in order to make compund words easier to understand. E.g. it should be "fasting-moving-object" rather than "object-moving-fast" and the new name of the language will be "Muyavu" (li muyavu li" in the language itself) instead of "Vuyamu".
The 5 "m" roots (ma, mo, mu, me, mi) are sort of quantifiers in my opinion. In my work, I combined "ma" and "mo" into just "mo" because they have the same essential meaning (each/every).
However your idea of using "li" for titles would solve a lot of problems and I think it is great and I'm glad to see your interested in the language.
And for your curiosity:
1. Vuyamu
2. Toki Pona
3. Bon Wen
4. Puna
Greyshades (Mostrar perfil) 12 de marzo de 2010 15:02:50