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Esperanto Keyboard

от kierenml, 22 сентября 2010 г.

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kierenml (Показать профиль) 22 сентября 2010 г., 13:00:02

Saluton!

Just a small question from an newbe Esperanto learner... I know there is a keyboard layout for Esperanto, but does anyone know where you can purchase keyboard overlays/stickers? I've looked, and most sites do everything but Esperanto.

Thanks

Kieren

sudanglo (Показать профиль) 22 сентября 2010 г., 13:11:37

I don't know anything about a keyboard layout for Esperanto but I think most people use either Tajpi or EK (downloadable for free) - both of which allow you to type using the x convention with immediate conversion to the ĉapelitaj literoj as you type.

darkweasel (Показать профиль) 22 сентября 2010 г., 13:21:30

sudanglo:I don't know anything about a keyboard layout for Esperanto
There's one bundled with Ubuntu, but I don't use it because it's QWERTY- and not QWERTZ-based and the position of the special signs on a QWERTY keyboard confuses me.

On Windows I do recommend Tajpi, on Linux there are instructions on Esperanto characters.

I guess if you really want stickers with the Esperanto characters for your keyboard, you could modify the corresponding stickers without an accent ...

jubilo (Показать профиль) 22 сентября 2010 г., 14:04:24

kierenml:Saluton!

. I know there is a keyboard layout for Esperanto, but does anyone know where you can purchase keyboard overlays/stickers? I've looked, and most sites do everything but Esperanto.
if you use windows take a look at http://ttt.jubilo.ca/ttt/type

if you use iphone/ipod/ipad
http://bit.ly/gxusta

Donniedillon (Показать профиль) 22 сентября 2010 г., 20:23:51

I like the abcTajpu extension for Firefox. It has a nice pop up menu to add Eo characters to any text field. It may not be too helpful for general word processing, but it is great for online use.

Genjix (Показать профиль) 22 сентября 2010 г., 20:49:11

darkweasel:
sudanglo:I don't know anything about a keyboard layout for Esperanto
There's one bundled with Ubuntu, but I don't use it because it's QWERTY- and not QWERTZ-based and the position of the special signs on a QWERTY keyboard confuses me.

On Windows I do recommend Tajpi, on Linux there are instructions on Esperanto characters.

I guess if you really want stickers with the Esperanto characters for your keyboard, you could modify the corresponding stickers without an accent ...
These instructions are bad. Please don't follow them on Linux.

All you need to do is:
setxkbmap -option esperanto:qwerty

Then I type ALT GR+u for ŭ

MikeDee (Показать профиль) 22 сентября 2010 г., 22:10:00

Sorry for bad english

(google)

I tried to make Esperanto a layout, but I do not further pursue. If you want you can make it ready ^^

http://de.lernu.net/komunikado/forumo/temo.php?t=6...

horsto (Показать профиль) 23 сентября 2010 г., 0:19:14

Genjix:
These instructions are bad. Please don't follow them on Linux.

All you need to do is:
setxkbmap -option esperanto:qwerty

Then I type ALT GR+u for ŭ
These instructions aren't bad at all. Your instructions are bad for everyone who doesn't use an english keyboard, because this Esperanto keyboard is based on the english keyboard and that means for most people not using an english keyboard that a lot of keys will change their positions.

darkweasel (Показать профиль) 23 сентября 2010 г., 5:06:22

horsto:
Genjix:
These instructions are bad. Please don't follow them on Linux.

All you need to do is:
setxkbmap -option esperanto:qwerty

Then I type ALT GR+u for ŭ
These instructions aren't bad at all. Your instructions are bad for everyone who doesn't use an english keyboard, because this Esperanto keyboard is based on the english keyboard and that means for most people not using an english keyboard that a lot of keys will change their positions.
+1

Also, using the AltGr key for the letters with accents makes one lose the ability to type the copyright sign © - which is AltGr-Shift-C at least on the standard QWERTZ keyboard. Other signs that I couldn't type any longer: ¢ŋŊħĦẞſ↑↓. (I'd especially miss capital ß.)

In fact, the .XCompose solution is extremely useful and I've been typing Esperanto letters using this method for ages. I don't know why you call these instructions bad.

ceigered (Показать профиль) 23 сентября 2010 г., 5:43:33

darkweasel:I don't know why you call these instructions bad.
(Layman's neutral devil's advocate point of view)
For an English keyboard user, "setxkbmap -option esperanto:qwerty" seems like a lot quicker option than the other, since we already use Qwerty keyboards and don't need ¢ŋŊħĦẞſ↑↓ or © normally - after all, copyrights normally imply you have the right to copyright, so it's not like the average person will require its use on the keyboard much. The rest are mostly phonetic/foreing symbols which I suspect most won't need, and I haven't used "¢" properly in ages, I just do "c" or "$0.00".

Of course, the seemingly simpler option is utterly useless if you need ß (I had no idea there was a capital version, that's cool!), or don't use qwerty, which rules out most of the non-English speaking countries, spare some Asian keyboard layouts which can get away with qwerty thanks to the different input method.

So Genjix isn't entirely without merit. It's just that his solution didn't take into account what you fellows need, and as there are more of you guys here in this forum, it of course seems strange that he'd say that the better method for your needs is worse. But for me, I'd rather take Genjix's solution purely because I never type using a awerty or qwertz or similar layout, and I only ever type in English, EO or Qwerty Hiragana/Qwerty Pinyin, and for me, all that command line stuff is annoying as I'm not familiar with most of it.

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