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What's the difference betweeb tiel and tia?

af omid17, 9. dec. 2010

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omid17 (Vise profilen) 9. dec. 2010 20.07.04

Apparently both of them mean "such" and tiel mostly comes together with kiel. I can not fully understand their difference though. can anyone expalin their difference using an example?

thanks in advance
Omid

Chainy (Vise profilen) 9. dec. 2010 21.20.18

Ŝi estas TIEL bela = She is SO beautiful
Ŝi estas TIA bela virino = She is SUCH a beautiful woman.
Li kantas TIEL bone = He sings SO well.
Mi estas TIEL forta, kiel vi = I'm AS strong as you.
Mi estas TIA forta viro! = I'm such a strong man!

Just some example sentences there. TIA generally seems to translate as 'such a'... Check out PMEG for a better explanation! ridulo.gif

erinja (Vise profilen) 9. dec. 2010 21.25.28

"tia" can also mean "that kind of"; "tiel" can also mean "in that way".

Mi faras ĝin tiel = I do it that way (literally "I do it in that way")

Mi havas tian hundon = I have that kind of dog.

Mi estas tia viro = I am that kind of man / that sort of man

"tia" describes a noun (tia hundo, tia viro). "Tiel" technically describes a verb (mi kuras tiel) or an adjective (tiel bela).

So if you have a question in your mind, you can also ask yourself, "Am I describing a verb, an adjective, or a noun?" and choose tiel or tia accordingly.

From the lernu dictionary:
tia = of that quality; of that sort
tiel = in that manner, in that grade/level

So:
Mi estas tiel bela kiel vi = I am as beautiful as you (I am beautiful at the same level as you; we have the same "level" of beauty)

Mia hundo estas tia, kia estas la lia. = My dog is the same sort as his (lit. My dog is that sort, which sort his is)

omid17 (Vise profilen) 10. dec. 2010 06.04.11

Thank you so very much dear Erinja and Chainy. I appreciate your help. It was comprehensive. Thanks again

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