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ceigered (Mostrar o perfil) 14 de janeiro de 2011 03:35:42
erinja:I haven't heard of any negative repercussions of Esperanto's association with Oomoto in Japan, but I don't know that Oomoto is very well-known even in Japan, so maybe it doesn't really affect anything.From my understanding Japanese religion is not quite as bigger an issue as in other places. It's a melting pot of religious beliefs, thanks to Shinto being animistic rather than theistic, if that makes any sense (I'm having trouble finding the right words).
Any, for fun: Jesus's grave in Shingo, Japan (the article purposely eggs on the claims, so no one take anything too seriously
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danielcg (Mostrar o perfil) 14 de janeiro de 2011 05:06:12
It doesn't seem such a difficult thing to me.
Regards,
Daniel
erinja:Not to mention that it isn't necessarily positive for Esperanto to be associated with any particular religion.
I have heard that in Brazil, Esperanto is closely associated with Spiritism. It gets a boost because people who believe in Spiritism are more inclined to learn it, but it can be a drawback because some people who *don't* believe in Spiritism see it as a "weird Spiritist thing" and don't want anything to do with it.
I haven't heard of any negative repercussions of Esperanto's association with Oomoto in Japan, but I don't know that Oomoto is very well-known even in Japan, so maybe it doesn't really affect anything.
ceigered (Mostrar o perfil) 14 de janeiro de 2011 10:44:38
danielcg:I am absolutely against spiritism, yet I can separate things. If a spiritist is also an esperantist, I can follow his example as esperantist even if I disagree with his spiritism.You sir are a man we need more of. Sadly, even in the somewhat "multicultural" (obsessed but not 100% practicing) Australia, there are those who can't separate such simple things like the Muslim from the religion of Islam.
It doesn't seem such a difficult thing to me.
Regards,
Daniel
EDIT: Ironically, from reading about Spiritism it seems I actually have some beliefs in common, but with me viewing such things from the perspective of science and information-based organisms, where as Spiritism comes from the perspective of spirituality and the supernatural. Who said religion and science were opposites? They're basically saying many of the same things but with different mentalities and vocabularies
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Donniedillon (Mostrar o perfil) 14 de janeiro de 2011 16:12:18
Wikipedia Article
danielcg (Mostrar o perfil) 15 de janeiro de 2011 20:12:29
As a (voluntary) part of the uninstallation process, OpenOffice requests to complete a short survey about the motives for unistallation. I told them I wanted to use an Office suite with an interface in Esperanto, a language supported by LibreOffice but presently not by OpenOffice.
Regards,
Daniel
erinja (Mostrar o perfil) 15 de janeiro de 2011 20:30:09
However you can read about the OpenOffice Esperanto translation project here
danielcg (Mostrar o perfil) 15 de janeiro de 2011 20:58:16
It was not my intention to blame them, just to make them know that for some people it is important to have an Esperanto interface.
Sure, I could do with an English or Spanish interface, but it's somehow nicer to have a software which speaks our language.
Appart from that, there is another reason to use LibreOffice instead of OpenOffice, and it is to be less dependant on the decissions of a business company (Oracle, in this case). I acknowledge my information is little about this internal facts of software development, so I am open to correction if I'm wrong.
Regards,
Daniel
erinja:Seems unfair to blame OpenOffice for not offering an Esperanto translation. It's not OpenOffice's fault that the Esperanto speakers working on the translation don't seem to have completed it.
However you can read about the OpenOffice Esperanto translation project here
erinja (Mostrar o perfil) 15 de janeiro de 2011 21:05:46
danielcg:It was not my intention to blame them, just to make them know that for some people it is important to have an Esperanto interface.How does this help? Will the OpenOffice people go to the houses of the volunteer Esperanto translators and beat them with sticks until they complete the translation?
danielcg (Mostrar o perfil) 15 de janeiro de 2011 21:26:43
In fact, I also had another reason to prefer LibreOffice: to be less dependent on the decissions of a business company (Oracle, in this case).
Appart from the Esperanto issue, what do you think about OpenOffice vs. LibreOffice?
Regards,
Daniel
erinja:danielcg:It was not my intention to blame them, just to make them know that for some people it is important to have an Esperanto interface.How does this help? Will the OpenOffice people go to the houses of the volunteer Esperanto translators and beat them with sticks until they complete the translation?
ceigered (Mostrar o perfil) 16 de janeiro de 2011 07:12:50
danielcg:Appart from the Esperanto issue, what do you think about OpenOffice vs. LibreOffice?I'd say Google Docs if it had an EO interface, but I don't think it does.
not so simply though apparently (Here), since it seems the question's been brought up and no one really knows how translations go in regards to Google's services. Google has got software to detect Esperanto and even provide search suggestions for it, but alas...