Equivalent to "man"
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ceigered (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 3 Rusama 2011 07:27:13
I was wondering what a good equivalent to the English "man" would be. I used "homo" in a separate thread jokingly before but now I'm relatively interested in what an EO equivalent would be (other than "amiko").'
The problem here would be that "man" in English could be seen in the light of Latin's "homo" (akin to sir according to wiktionary), or if "man" in English derives from something else, like for example the Cornish mann (perhaps possible, since there's no etymological sense to saying "man" emphatically unless you're referring to your friend as a fellow human (like "homo") - although "man alive" seems to indicate it is referring to humans and not to some celtic expression).
"Homo" could sound rather strange, almost like calling someone a human from a 3rd person point of view, to some I guess, "viro" doesn't work at all, even in English's point of view, "man" is technically gender neutral, in origins mostly.
Evildela (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 3 Rusama 2011 07:47:01
Also don't forget you've got words like; Kamarado
ceigered (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 3 Rusama 2011 08:34:42
Evildela:KamaradoI know, I'm purposely avoiding "friend" terms, just to see if there is any small avenue not yet found.
Context: "man that sucks". "Oh man look at whachu did to mah shoes!" "Man, you need to chillaaaaaax" "Man aloive that crocodoile just ight me leg!" etc, something around those lines. A cross between a emphatic address to anyone nearby, and an emphatic expression of the situation
Lom (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 3 Rusama 2011 09:29:58
ceigered:"Man aloive that crocodoile just ight me leg!"What does that mean? "Man, I just let that crocodile bite my leg"?
How about "ulo" for "man"?
P.S.: I like "chillax". I never heard it before.
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Kion tio signifas? "Ulo, mi ĵus lasis tiun krokodilon mordi mian gambon"?
Kia pri "ulo" por "man"?
P.S.: Mi ŝatas "chillax". Mi neniam aŭdis ĝin antaŭe.
tommjames (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 3 Rusama 2011 09:37:00
Miland (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 3 Rusama 2011 10:52:21
ceigered:I was wondering what a good equivalent to the English "man" would be..How about Diable,...
Context: "man that sucks". "Oh man look at whachu did to mah shoes!" "Man, you need to chillaaaaaax" "Man aloive that crocodoile just ight me leg!" etc, something around those lines. A cross between a emphatic address to anyone nearby, and an emphatic expression of the situation
sudanglo (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 3 Rusama 2011 11:08:41
Basically, though, I don't see such expressions as translatable into Esperanto because of the limited register variation in Esperanto at its current stage of development.
You could try using a swear word, such as 'Fek' to add more colour to the expression.
ceigered (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 3 Rusama 2011 11:15:03
Lom:ultra exaggerated example of some outback man remarking "Man alive, that crocodile just ate my leg!" (with the eye sounds becoming oys and the ay sounds becomeing eyesceigered:"Man aloive that crocodoile just ight me leg!"What does that mean? "Man, I just let that crocodile bite my leg"?
)I think in this case as everyone's said I'll go with something more like "diable" "ve" or "fek"
Regarding "ulo", I was wondering about that. Is it only me or does it seem like a nice stand in for "mate/amiko" without flat out calling them a friend (for whatever masculinity related reasons prevents us men from calling friends friends)?
RE Chillax, I reckon that must originate from America....
T0dd (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 3 Rusama 2011 12:24:12
"Man (or Dude), I don't know what you're talking about." = Ulo, mi ne scias pri kio vi parolas. The initial 'u' can be stretched for added emphasis. Uuulo...
kaha (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 3 Rusama 2011 13:14:08