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English "Now what?" and "bottomfeeder" into Esperanto?

jkph00, 2011 m. gegužė 9 d.

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jkph00 (Rodyti profilį) 2011 m. gegužė 10 d. 15:12:05

"Kio nun?" kaj "aĉulo." Dankon pro via interesa asistado! Mi eksciis multe de vi!

jkph00 (Rodyti profilį) 2011 m. gegužė 11 d. 17:12:10

Frith Ra:The metaphorical sense of "Bottom feeder" in English is someone who benefits or profits off of the misery of others. It's one of those semi-poetic euphemisms which are so rampant in English vernacular.

I would generally go with Aĉulo, unless the "bottomfeeder" in question was someone who was otherwise classy, then I'd try to find something more appropriate. "Politikaĉisto" "Fiadvokato" KTP.
…unless the "bottomfeeder" in question was someone who was otherwise classy, then I'd try to find something more appropriate. "Politikaĉisto" "Fiadvokato"
The bottomfeeder is indeed a lawyer, so I can see "fiadvokato" applying, but only logically as yet. Does that word include a feeling of revulsion? Dankon!

jkph00 (Rodyti profilį) 2011 m. gegužė 11 d. 17:22:03

darkweasel:Do you like fiaĉulo? rideto.gif
I do like it. Now as a beginner, I looked up "fi" which means to shame, and "aĉulo" which means a despicable wretch of a person. It also has a sound very near an impolite American expression that has the emotional connotation I'm looking for. I'm intrigued by the use of "fi" as a modifier. Does the word "fiaĉulo" express the loathing attached to describing a lawyer as a bottom-feeder?

NJ Esperantist (Rodyti profilį) 2011 m. gegužė 11 d. 23:56:36

jkph00:
darkweasel:Do you like fiaĉulo? rideto.gif
I do like it. Now as a beginner, I looked up "fi" which means to shame, and "aĉulo" which means a despicable wretch of a person. It also has a sound very near an impolite American expression that has the emotional connotation I'm looking for. I'm intrigued by the use of "fi" as a modifier. Does the word "fiaĉulo" express the loathing attached to describing a lawyer as a bottom-feeder?
As you get deeper into Esperanto, you will discover that darn near anything if not everything can function as a modifier. okulumo.gif

ceigered (Rodyti profilį) 2011 m. gegužė 12 d. 03:22:55

Not sure "fiacxulo" covers the meaning well at all,since "fiacxulo" could also translate to any bad person who puts themselves to shame.

Including, but not restricted to:
Murderers, robbers, public exhibitionists, totalitarian dictators, stalkers, people who laugh at inappropriate times... the list goes on.

And not all of them are bottomfeeders.

erinja (Rodyti profilį) 2011 m. gegužė 12 d. 11:34:00

I think a fiaĉulo is much worse than a bottomfeeder. I doubt that there is a suitable Esperanto word that perfectly captures both the sleazy lawyer and the person who sponges off of others' good will.

But I think that "parazitemulo" gives the right impression. Or "parazitaĉo".

jkph00 (Rodyti profilį) 2011 m. gegužė 13 d. 00:15:43

erinja:I think a fiaĉulo is much worse than a bottomfeeder. I doubt that there is a suitable Esperanto word that perfectly captures both the sleazy lawyer and the person who sponges off of others' good will.

But I think that "parazitemulo" gives the right impression. Or "parazitaĉo".
"Parazitaĉo," or "rotten parasite" sure comes close to the truth, but does it have the revulsion attached to it that bottom-feeder has? I'm really looking forward to joining the Washington, DC Esperantistoj to practice speaking. One must see and hear the reactions people have to spoken words to really understand their impact, don't you find?

What does the "em" in "parazitemulo" signify? I've not discovered that yet, and the dictionary doesn't help me this time. Thanks!

3rdblade (Rodyti profilį) 2011 m. gegužė 13 d. 01:17:05

jkph00:What does the "em" in "parazitemulo" signify? I've not discovered that yet, and the dictionary doesn't help me this time. Thanks!
It means 'tends to do' or 'is inclined to do' or 'has a disposition to do' the root which precedes it. So a decent translation into English is 'a guy who has the disposition of a parasite.'

ceigered (Rodyti profilį) 2011 m. gegužė 13 d. 03:17:29

jkph00:"Parazitaĉo," or "rotten parasite" sure comes close to the truth, but does it have the revulsion attached to it that bottom-feeder has?
I think parasites like mosquitoes and leeches tend to be disliked more than the various fish and other ocean dwelling creatures that feed around the sea bed lango.gif

qwertz (Rodyti profilį) 2011 m. gegužė 13 d. 09:57:55

That funny Jellyfish, (Sea) snakes & Jumping crocs creatures? They can be dangerous but I don't see them like parasites because they are nature. And I respect the creatures of nature even if I have to defense against them if they would attack me. (I'm lucky, they didn't. Only some sea gull and sand fleas did.)

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