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Fou (הצגת פרופיל) 22 במאי 2011, 17:15:07
5. Almost a year they were happy, but these seasons were too diverse and could not long remain friends.
Ili feliĉis preskaŭ jaro, sed tiuj sezonoj tro diversis kaj ne longe amikas.
Dankon
geo63 (הצגת פרופיל) 22 במאי 2011, 17:27:20
Fou:Did I translate this right?I can't understand your esperanto sentence, so it is not right. Maybe this should do:
5. Almost a year they were happy, but these seasons were too diverse and could not long remain friends.
Ili feliĉis preskaŭ jaro, sed tiuj sezonoj tro diversis kaj ne longe amikas.
Dankon
Por/dum preskaŭ unu jaro ili estis feliĉaj, sed tiuj ĉi sezonoj tro diversis kaj ili ne povis longe resti kiel amikoj...
Fou (הצגת פרופיל) 22 במאי 2011, 17:35:49
geo63:Thanks a lot
I can't understand your esperanto sentence, so it is not right. Maybe this should do:
Por/dum preskaŭ unu jaro ili estis feliĉaj, sed tiuj ĉi sezonoj tro diversis kaj ili ne povis longe resti kiel amikoj...
I've got some questions though:
1. When can you make an adjective into a verb?
2. When do you use tro and tre?
3. Does it matter where ĉi is placed? (Like before or after tiu)
Dankon
Miland (הצגת פרופיל) 22 במאי 2011, 17:38:39
Fou:Almost a year they were happy, but these seasons were too diverse and could not long remain friends.Are you using the different seasons of the year as metaphors for incompatible personalities? I suggest that you put the sentence more clearly in English to begin with.
Fou (הצגת פרופיל) 22 במאי 2011, 17:40:20
Miland:Are you using the different seasons of the year as metaphors for incompatible personalities? I suggest that you put the sentence more clearly in English to begin with.I took the sentence directly from the book "A Complete Grammar of Esperanto" by Ivy Kellman. XD
geo63 (הצגת פרופיל) 22 במאי 2011, 17:43:48
Fou:1. In Esperanto there are no verbs and no adjectives. A root can play a role of an adjective when you add -a. So it is with verbs. A root can be a verb if you add a verbial ending. Same roots do have verbial meaning though, some adjectival, and other are related to object You must check with the dictionary. So:geo63:Thanks a lot
I can't understand your esperanto sentence, so it is not right. Maybe this should do:
Por/dum preskaŭ unu jaro ili estis feliĉaj, sed tiuj ĉi sezonoj tro diversis kaj ili ne povis longe resti kiel amikoj...
I've got some questions though:
1. When can you make an adjective into a verb?
2. When do you use tro and tre?
3. Does it matter where ĉi is placed? (Like before or after tiu)
Dankon
feliĉ|a = happy (normal form)
feliĉ|i = be happy (derived as verb)
feliĉ|o = happiness (derived as substantive)
2.
tro = too much
tre = very
3. No, you can say:
Tio ĉi
Ĉi tio
Sometimes one form sounds better then the other.
geo63 (הצגת פרופיל) 22 במאי 2011, 17:46:36
Miland:I too noticed that something was wrong with the English sentence, but I am not native...Fou:Almost a year they were happy, but these seasons were too diverse and could not long remain friends.Are you using the different seasons of the year as metaphors for incompatible personalities? I suggest that you put the sentence more clearly in English to begin with.
Miland (הצגת פרופיל) 22 במאי 2011, 17:50:01
Fou:I took the sentence directly from the book "A Complete Grammar of Esperanto" by Ivy Kellman. XDDankon; the context (the complete set of sentences for translation at the end of lesson XXI) makes this one clearer. The seasons are being personified in a legend about creation.
I might translate No. 5 as follows:
Dum preskaŭ jaro ili estis feliĉaj, sed ĉi tiuj sezonoj estis tro malsimilaj, kaj ne povis longe resti amikoj.
Fou (הצגת פרופיל) 22 במאי 2011, 17:54:47
geo63:So as long as it is logically possible, I can form a variety of words from a stem?
1. In Esperanto there are no verbs and no adjectives. A root can play a role of an adjective when you add -a. So it is with verbs. A root can be a verb if you add a verbial ending. Same roots do have verbial meaning though, some adjectival, and other are related to object You must check with the dictionary. So:
feliĉ|a = happy (normal form)
feliĉ|i = be happy (derived as verb)
feliĉ|o = happiness (derived as substantive)
geo63:Like this?
2.
tro = too much
tre = very
Tro: Estas tro monon ĉi tie.
Tre: Mi tre frenezas.
Sorry if I ask too many questions XD
darkweasel (הצגת פרופיל) 22 במאי 2011, 18:03:02
Fou:No, this has to be estas tro da mono ĉi tie.
Tro: Estas tro monon ĉi tie.
Concerning making verbs out of adjectives, you should be aware that some common adjectives, such as korekta, are actually derived verbs - korekta (correct) comes from korekti (to correct), so you can't make korekti out of esti korekta as this would clash with the actual meaning of korekti.
There are, however, only a handful of such roots (FUŜ/, KOREKT/, VEK/, KOMPLIK/ and maybe some I've forgotten).