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EldanarLambetur (顯示個人資料) 2011年10月16日下午3:25:03
I'd like to be able to write like this in Esperanto. So I wanted to ask about a couple of things I've not been able to find.
1. So is "rava" an appropriate word for "delightful"? If so, if someone had just made a comment about a particularly lovely word, and I wanted to begin my response with "delightful!/lovely!", would I say "rave"? I've noticed the use of e-words where English would use adjectives, in these cases where there is no explicit noun to describe.
2. What's the word for "to cringe"?
3. What's the word for "sexy"?
4. How'd you say "to accost". The vortaro lists "alparoli", but this is "to address", "accost" implies aggression.
5. If you're politely offering a suggestion in English, you may start out by saying "How about...?" or "What about...". Is there some kind of equivalent in Esperanto? So far I've been (maybe) getting away with using "eble"... "perhaps... "
Thanks for any help!
Andy
Miland (顯示個人資料) 2011年10月16日下午10:10:38
EldanarLambetur:..is "rava" an appropriate word for "delightful"?Yes, according to Wells.
EldanarLambetur:If .. I wanted to begin my response with "delightful!/lovely!", would I say "rave"?You could, but Tre bone! or Belega/e! might do as well, depending on the situation.
EldanarLambetur:What's the word for "to cringe"?Benson has timkaŭri and Wells has fikliniĝi.
EldanarLambetur:What's the word for "sexy"?Wells has amorveka. Amora might also do.
EldanarLambetur:How'd you say "to accost".Wells has alparoli and invitkroĉi.
EldanarLambetur:If you're politely offering a suggestion .. "How about...?" or "What about...". Is there some kind of equivalent in Esperanto?There is a past thread on this.
sudanglo (顯示個人資料) 2011年10月17日下午12:14:47
In some contexts 'sexy' would be 'erotika' (I find high heels and stockings very sexy).
However, if you want to describe Esperanto as a sexy language, another term would seem to be appropriate.
'Sexy' (in the koketa sense) seems to be have been borrowed from English by the French, Spanish and Germans, if the Googled dictionary entries are reliable. So perhaps the neologism 'seksia' would work in Esperanto.
Or what about 'volupta' (kion vi pensas pri volupta) which according to PIV doesn't mean quite the same as English's 'voluptuous', which often seems just to mean 'curvaceous' (or even fat).
Perhaps Esperanto hasn't yet found an equivalent for 'sexy' because there are so few sexy Esperantists - the predominant fashion sense and gait leaning towards the eco-warrior, or the nerd, if not the downright hippy.
Consulting REVO: 'Koketa robo' seems to be a passable translation of 'a sexy dress'
ceigered (顯示個人資料) 2011年10月18日下午1:04:32
At least, sexy as used in English normally is said using a borrowing of sexy in many languages, rather than a native equivalent which would normally instead mean something like "sexually-stimulating" or even worse!
EldanarLambetur (顯示個人資料) 2011年10月18日下午5:29:00
Yeah I was thinking of trying to give a context... But the difficulty is that most of the sentences that I end up writing in this way (e.g. likening Esperanto to a cute lady) often won't make literal sense, so I thought I'd leave you guys to just explain the shades of meaning behind each of your suggestions! (e.g. it sounds like "koketa" is like flirtatious, playful "sexy", whereas "erotika" is steamy sexy!)
Thanks!
sudanglo (顯示個人資料) 2011年10月19日下午2:00:34
How ever some people are sexy and it seems a natural quality (a sort of animal magnetism) and not the least contrived.
It's that sense which I find difficult to translate.
And I think it is that sense, used metaphorically, we are employing if you say that Esperanto is a sexy language.
EldanarLambetur (顯示個人資料) 2011年10月20日上午12:20:12
Please do let me know if you come up with anything else!
sudanglo (顯示個人資料) 2011年10月20日上午9:19:13
Instead I suggest seksuala, which would not be a synonym for 'seksa' or 'seksuma' or 'sekseca', but mean having a sexual quality (earthy, carnal, amor-sugesta)
The word 'homosexual' seems to have cognate forms in most European languages, (sometimes with an 'e' rather than an 'a') so we can trade on the recognisability of '-sexual'.
And whilst we are about it we might innovate 'sensuala' as well.
Anyway, for describing Esperanto's magnetic qualities, we could use other imagery. For example the language could be described as (en)sorĉa (PIV's definition 2. (f) of sorĉi ravi per ia neracia, nerezistebla logo).
Or we could talk of addictive quality - 'la alkroĉa/ adheriga /ne-rezistebla kvalito de la lingvo'