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Esperanto for American holiday "Eves"?

от jkph00, 23 декабря 2011 г.

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jkph00 (Показать профиль) 23 декабря 2011 г., 22:11:20

What is used in Esperanto for the North American "Christmas Eve" and "New Year's Eve?"

Thanks again!

darkweasel (Показать профиль) 23 декабря 2011 г., 22:30:46

I think it might be reasonable to cross-post answers to this thread at the calendar thread. okulumo.gif

Anyway concerning New Year’s Eve there have been past discussions a year ago:
Silvestro or Novjara Turniĝo?
Kiel ni nomiĝu la vesperon de 31an decembro?

robbkvasnak (Показать профиль) 23 декабря 2011 г., 22:31:34

la antaŭvespero de Kristnasko kaj la antaŭvespero de la Nova Jaro (la germanoj diras "silvestro") - other cultures call Christmas Eve "sankta nokto"

darkweasel (Показать профиль) 23 декабря 2011 г., 22:37:49

robbkvasnak:other cultures call Christmas Eve "sankta nokto"
Sankta Vespero, at least here. However it’s intended for a US-specific calendar in Esperanto (an Austrian one is already there). rideto.gif

Miland (Показать профиль) 23 декабря 2011 г., 23:04:27

jkph00:What is used in Esperanto for the North American "Christmas Eve" and "New Year's Eve?"
Following Wells, I might use antaŭkristnaska tago (or vespero) for Xmas Eve. For New Year's Eve Wells has Silvestra Vespero, but I might also use antaŭnovjara (tago/vespero).

sudanglo (Показать профиль) 24 декабря 2011 г., 9:51:03

I've known the term Silvestro to refer to the New Years Eve almost all my Esperantist life (some 50 years), but if it is thought too regional then Jarfino seems the neatest solution.

You can refer to the Jarfina Tago or the Jarfina Vespero if you need to distinguish.

For Christmas Eve, I'd say La AntaŭKristnasko or AntaŭKristnaska tago (vespero).

erinja (Показать профиль) 24 декабря 2011 г., 12:47:54

I use "antaŭkristnasko" myself.

Or "Erev Christmas" in English.
(har har har, Jewish joke)

Miland (Показать профиль) 24 декабря 2011 г., 14:21:03

erinja:"Erev Christmas"
(har har har, Jewish joke)
I suppose by that kind of thinking, the 26th December would be Boker day? rido.gif

erinja (Показать профиль) 24 декабря 2011 г., 14:28:55

Miland:
erinja:"Erev Christmas"
(har har har, Jewish joke)
I suppose by that logic, the 26th December would be Boker day? rido.gif
It may well be! Or alternately, if you consider Christmas to be a 12-day holiday (12 days of Christmas, plus the 13th, Epiphany), then if this imaginary Jewish holiday were printed on a calendar, 26th December would be marked as "Chol HaMoed 1" (first day of the "weekdays" of a multi-day holiday)

So Christmas would be a yom tov (observed holiday), the 26th December through 5 January are all Chol HaMoed (1 through 11), and Epiphany would be another day of Yom Tov, to bookend the holiday season.

That would be treating it like Passover or Shavuot, where the first day and the last day of a multi-day holiday have special customs and laws, but the middle days are sort of "generic holiday" days.

Miland (Показать профиль) 24 декабря 2011 г., 14:43:50

I can see plays on words and meanings with (Evening=)Erev/Eve and (Morning=)Boker/Boxer/Boxing, but I'm not so sure about chol, moed or yom. Maybe other readers will think of something.

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