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Esperanto for American holiday "Eves"?

ya jkph00, 23 Desemba 2011

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jkph00 (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 23 Desemba 2011 10:11:20 alasiri

What is used in Esperanto for the North American "Christmas Eve" and "New Year's Eve?"

Thanks again!

darkweasel (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 23 Desemba 2011 10:30:46 alasiri

I think it might be reasonable to cross-post answers to this thread at the calendar thread. okulumo.gif

Anyway concerning New Year’s Eve there have been past discussions a year ago:
Silvestro or Novjara Turniĝo?
Kiel ni nomiĝu la vesperon de 31an decembro?

robbkvasnak (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 23 Desemba 2011 10:31:34 alasiri

la antaŭvespero de Kristnasko kaj la antaŭvespero de la Nova Jaro (la germanoj diras "silvestro") - other cultures call Christmas Eve "sankta nokto"

darkweasel (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 23 Desemba 2011 10:37:49 alasiri

robbkvasnak:other cultures call Christmas Eve "sankta nokto"
Sankta Vespero, at least here. However it’s intended for a US-specific calendar in Esperanto (an Austrian one is already there). rideto.gif

Miland (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 23 Desemba 2011 11:04:27 alasiri

jkph00:What is used in Esperanto for the North American "Christmas Eve" and "New Year's Eve?"
Following Wells, I might use antaŭkristnaska tago (or vespero) for Xmas Eve. For New Year's Eve Wells has Silvestra Vespero, but I might also use antaŭnovjara (tago/vespero).

sudanglo (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 24 Desemba 2011 9:51:03 asubuhi

I've known the term Silvestro to refer to the New Years Eve almost all my Esperantist life (some 50 years), but if it is thought too regional then Jarfino seems the neatest solution.

You can refer to the Jarfina Tago or the Jarfina Vespero if you need to distinguish.

For Christmas Eve, I'd say La AntaŭKristnasko or AntaŭKristnaska tago (vespero).

erinja (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 24 Desemba 2011 12:47:54 alasiri

I use "antaŭkristnasko" myself.

Or "Erev Christmas" in English.
(har har har, Jewish joke)

Miland (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 24 Desemba 2011 2:21:03 alasiri

erinja:"Erev Christmas"
(har har har, Jewish joke)
I suppose by that kind of thinking, the 26th December would be Boker day? rido.gif

erinja (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 24 Desemba 2011 2:28:55 alasiri

Miland:
erinja:"Erev Christmas"
(har har har, Jewish joke)
I suppose by that logic, the 26th December would be Boker day? rido.gif
It may well be! Or alternately, if you consider Christmas to be a 12-day holiday (12 days of Christmas, plus the 13th, Epiphany), then if this imaginary Jewish holiday were printed on a calendar, 26th December would be marked as "Chol HaMoed 1" (first day of the "weekdays" of a multi-day holiday)

So Christmas would be a yom tov (observed holiday), the 26th December through 5 January are all Chol HaMoed (1 through 11), and Epiphany would be another day of Yom Tov, to bookend the holiday season.

That would be treating it like Passover or Shavuot, where the first day and the last day of a multi-day holiday have special customs and laws, but the middle days are sort of "generic holiday" days.

Miland (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 24 Desemba 2011 2:43:50 alasiri

I can see plays on words and meanings with (Evening=)Erev/Eve and (Morning=)Boker/Boxer/Boxing, but I'm not so sure about chol, moed or yom. Maybe other readers will think of something.

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