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Prefix MAL + verb

من EoMy, 7 أبريل، 2012

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EoMy (عرض الملف الشخصي) 7 أبريل، 2012 1:44:37 م

Saluton

I have problem in this verb formation. The problem is WHEN to use the mal + verb, for example, malaperis.

But mal is the opposite of adjective, malbela etc.

Thus, if the verb forming of the followings, what is right and wrong?

malvidas

maltrinkas

But most of the time, we see ne vidas, ne trinkas. It sounds odd to say malvidas vin.

Search for a while for the topic,but cannot find it. Hope it is not a double post. Please give good example and clear explanation.

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darkweasel (عرض الملف الشخصي) 7 أبريل، 2012 1:57:17 م

You can use mal- with anything that has a logical opposite, whether it’s an adjective, verb, noun or even preposition (maltrans?).

EoMy (عرض الملف الشخصي) 7 أبريل، 2012 1:59:57 م

darkweasel:You can use mal- with anything that has a logical opposite, whether it’s an adjective, verb, noun or even preposition (maltrans?).
How about 'malviro' ? a female. But many say it is not possible. demando.gif

darkweasel (عرض الملف الشخصي) 7 أبريل، 2012 2:08:03 م

EoMy:
darkweasel:You can use mal- with anything that has a logical opposite, whether it’s an adjective, verb, noun or even preposition (maltrans?).
How about 'malviro' ? a female. But many say it is not possible. demando.gif
Theoretically it’s probably possible, but it is not useful so it is not used.

Fenris_kcf (عرض الملف الشخصي) 7 أبريل، 2012 2:09:48 م

There are just a few cases where it makes sense to put the prefix "mal-" in front of a "normal verb"; "malaperi" for example.

kefga_x (عرض الملف الشخصي) 7 أبريل، 2012 2:30:38 م

EoMy:malvidas

maltrinkas

But most of the time, we see ne vidas, ne trinkas. It sounds odd to say malvidas vin.
Selamat EoMy, I remember thinking about this very thing in the past.

It's a bit subtle but the difference is important.

Ne vidas = not see
Malvidas = opposite-of-see (unsee?)

Ne trikas = not drink
Maltrinkas= opposite-of-drink (puke?)

Hope that helps!

erinja (عرض الملف الشخصي) 7 أبريل، 2012 4:47:17 م

EoMy, this is an important thing to remember:

Not every combination of "Root + prefix or suffix" will make sense. Logic should guide your choices. You can make combinations that don't make good sense, or which have ambiguous meaning. These should be avoided.

mal- (opposite) has a meaning that is very distinct from ne (not).

"not red" has a very different meaning from "opposite of red" (and what does "opposite of red" even mean? this is why you don't expect to see a word like "malruĝa")

maltrinki (opposite of drink) is occasionally used by young people as a humorous way to say "urini" (to urinate)

acdibble (عرض الملف الشخصي) 7 أبريل، 2012 7:38:17 م

erinja:and what does "opposite of red" even mean?
Perhaps it means green:

http://www.artsconnected.org/toolkit/images/encyc_...

And for malvidi:

What has been seen cannot be unseen.

Kio estas vidita, ne povas esti malvidita.

sudanglo (عرض الملف الشخصي) 7 أبريل، 2012 8:28:53 م

Kiam mi studis en la mal-lernejo, mi mal-lernis multon. Nun mi scias preskaŭ nenion. Mi estis unu el la plej bonaj mallernantoj kaj eĉ ricevis premion.

I leave it to someone else to translate that into English.

EldanarLambetur (عرض الملف الشخصي) 7 أبريل، 2012 8:45:31 م

sudanglo:Kiam mi studis en la mal-lernejo, mi mal-lernis multon. Nun mi scias preskaŭ nenion. Mi estis unu el la plej bonaj mallernantoj kaj eĉ ricevis premion.

I leave it to someone else to translate that into English.
Iom ŝerce:

When I studied in a pub, much fell out of my brain. Now I know almost nothing. I was one of the best drunks, and even got a prize!

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