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Call a bluff?

від jkph00, 19 березня 2013 р.

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jkph00 (Переглянути профіль) 19 березня 2013 р. 22:50:01

If I say, "Se li blufas, ni scios," I miss the power of saying "We are calling his bluff." Is there a way to express that more powerful sentiment?

Antaǔdankon!

erinja (Переглянути профіль) 20 березня 2013 р. 02:20:49

Calling a bluff is too idiomatic to translate well.

A non-colorful way to say it would be "mi anoncos lian mensogon".

Perhaps "Mi malkovros lian manon" - not necessarily a card hand, but a hand that is doing something, perhaps?

J_Marc (Переглянути профіль) 20 березня 2013 р. 09:09:47

jkph00:If I say, "Se li blufas, ni scios," I miss the power of saying "We are calling his bluff." Is there a way to express that more powerful sentiment?

Antaǔdankon!
To 'call a bluff' means to be confident that an opponent is pretending to be in a more advantageous position than the opponent actually is, and to use that instinct to challenge the opponent. We don't technically know it's a bluff until the challenge is done and the dust has settled. ReVo's definition of 'blufi' and 'defii' seem good to use, so how about defii ies blufan aserton, of perhaps simply defii la blufon. (Challenge someone's bluffing assertion, or challenge the bluff.)

If you wanted to say it as 'revealing' the bluff rather than challenging it, I'd switch defii for malkaŝi.

sudanglo (Переглянути профіль) 20 березня 2013 р. 10:55:49

defii ies blufon and malkaŝ(ig)i ies blufon are good suggestions depending on the nuance in the particular context.

Possibly also spiti ies blufon.

To translate the name of the TV panel game 'Call My Bluff' perhaps 'Ĉu mi blufas?' or 'Kiu blufas?'

jkph00 (Переглянути профіль) 20 березня 2013 р. 18:34:33

These are all excellent suggestions and very useful. Thank you, everyone. ridulo.gif

sudanglo (Переглянути профіль) 21 березня 2013 р. 10:37:03

On reflection, JK, the expression that now seems to me to come closest for most uses of 'call a bluff' is malkaŝigi ies blufon, which its nuance of doing something which renders the other party's blufo malkaŝa.

When the poker player shows his hand (after claiming the pot) li malkaŝas sian blufon. The player who calls malkaŝigas la blufon.

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