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Synonyms for farti?

by ryanpg, October 17, 2013

Messages: 35

Language: English

orthohawk (User's profile) October 17, 2013, 6:13:11 PM

erinja:Just get used to it and say "farti".

"Kiel vi statas" sounds weird, people don't generally say that. Part of learning a foreign language is getting used to sounds that may come out to say something funny in your own language.

The Esperanto word "maldikulo" (a thin person) sounds like it says "butt pain" in Italian ('mal di culo' ).
I have a book titled "Esperanto in 50 Lessons" (I usually eschew titles of this sort, but I figured with Esperanto, it would work out well, and it does) by no less an Esperantujo personage as Edmond Privat and he has "Kiel vi sanas." I've taught both. Not surprisingly, the native English speakers tend toward "sanas" and the others toward "fartas"........

erinja (User's profile) October 17, 2013, 6:36:25 PM

Maybe people said "Kiel vi sanas" a hundred years ago, but I have never heard that expression used in actual Esperanto conversation today, from native English speakers or from anyone else.

You can't twist and turn yourself when learning a language to avoid every single thing that might sound funny in your own language. It just won't work. Will you also, then, avoid using the word "homo", or using the past tense of the word "peni" (penis)?

Moosader (User's profile) October 17, 2013, 8:31:54 PM

erinja:Maybe people said "Kiel vi sanas" a hundred years ago, but I have never heard that expression used in actual Esperanto conversation today, from native English speakers or from anyone else.

You can't twist and turn yourself when learning a language to avoid every single thing that might sound funny in your own language. It just won't work. Will you also, then, avoid using the word "homo", or using the past tense of the word "peni" (penis)?
What is the difference between Peni and Preni?

I also tend to use "Ulo" in lieu of "Homo"

Kirilo81:If you pronounce the words correctly as ['fartas], ['bɔnɛ], and ['ʃatas], there should be no confusion.
I dunno, I made an animation where several people said, "Kiel vi fartas?" / "Mi fartas bone", and I had to delete a bunch of YouTube comments about it. lango.gif

Nile (User's profile) October 17, 2013, 10:22:44 PM

Well, you can just use the Lernu Vortaro for that. peni=try preni=get
I first thought it was weird using "homo" because it felt weird to say "human" all the time, but it's better than the trisyllabic "persono".

Moosader (User's profile) October 17, 2013, 11:57:01 PM

Nile:Well, you can just use the Lernu Vortaro for that. peni=try preni=get
I first thought it was weird using "homo" because it felt weird to say "human" all the time, but it's better than the trisyllabic "persono".
Oh, I meant provi. What's the difference between

Provi - to try, to attempt, to test, to try out

Peni - to endeavour, to make an effort, to try

whysea (User's profile) October 18, 2013, 12:28:04 AM

Of course the right answer is "get used to it"

But how about "Kiel vi estas?"

A criticism of this choice could be that it is vague...but I'd imagine that most people would know what you're saying, and I'd like to mention that vagueness is often an opportunity to respond with a joke.

Duko (User's profile) October 18, 2013, 8:19:44 AM

Isn't "Kiel vi?" an option?

fajrkapo (User's profile) October 18, 2013, 8:30:11 AM

Kiel vi trovigxas?

sudanglo (User's profile) October 18, 2013, 9:20:39 AM

Ĉu ĉio bona?
Ĉu vi bonfartas/bonsanas?
Kiel progresas/iras la aferoj/la vivo?
Kiel vi?

Kirilo81 (User's profile) October 18, 2013, 9:49:35 AM

whysea:But how about "Kiel vi estas?"
Then the response should be "Mi estas bone", which of course is grammatically incorrect.

Duko's "Kiel vi?" as shortcut for "Kiel vi fartas?" is a viable option.

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