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Fermi la vortaro/Closing the Dictionary

글쓴이: AllenHartwell, 2014년 5월 28일

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언어: English

bartlett22183 (프로필 보기) 2014년 5월 31일 오후 6:31:44

Fenris_kcf:C'mon, don't spread such neologisms!
One could follow the etymology of "window" to the old Norse "vindauga", which means nothing but "windeye".
So let's use "Ventokulo"! From the famous company "Malgrandegmola"!
Would that not be "Maleggrandmola"? After all, I would say that "micro-" should be "maleg-". ridulo.gif ridulo.gif ridulo.gif

morfran (프로필 보기) 2014년 5월 31일 오후 9:29:36

bartlett22183:Would that not be "Maleggrandmola"? After all, I would say that "micro-" should be "maleg-". ridulo.gif ridulo.gif ridulo.gif
Could be "Etmola", but "Malgrandegmola" is funnier — and better captures the clunkiness of both the company and this Closed Dictionary thing. Not that it would matter to me; I use a Pomo myself, and am still in mourning for Mr. Stefano Taskoj.

I buried my old SE years ago, which I had kept around out of sentimentality for almost two decades. Does that make it a Terpomo now?

robbkvasnak (프로필 보기) 2014년 6월 1일 오전 1:46:58

sudanglo:
vinduso
Don't you mean Vindozo, Rob? Or does vinduso refer to something else?
according to §15 of the Fundamento Gramatiko an internationalism is automatically part of the Esperanto lexicon
This has become a whole lot easier now that English is the de facto international language. Kuul! Ĉu ne?
Sudanglo, vere mi celis "vindozo" sed negravas la tajperareto - mi kredas ke ĉiu komprenis - en 5 ĝis 10 jaroj (maksimume) tiu vorto malaperos kaj nova programego aperos aŭ tute nova koncepto por ordigi komputilajn sciaĵarojn. (Wells - do, Ŭelz, skribas Vindozo kun majusklo sed al mi mankis la tempo por vortarkontroli ĉiun vorton - mi celis komuniki ne gramatikumi. Pacon!
Por terpomo mi proponas "ĉukio" el la ajmara vorto "ch'uqi". Por "manĝbastonetoj" (uf!) mi proponas "haŝioj" el la japana ĉar estas kurta kaj klara (kkk).
Eble "okulkuracisto" estas pli esperanta ol la zamenhofa "oftomologo" sed entekste oni povas uzi aŭ unu aŭ la alian sen problemoj.
Sed se esperantistoj preferas peti kelneron por alporto de "manĝbastonetoj" kaj la kelneroj komprenas, tiam tia "estu!" (soi!) Se oni volas peti "frititajn terpomfingrojn" aŭ "frititajn terpombastonetojn" en rapidvorejo kaj la superŝarĝata dungito havas la tempon por elaŭskulti la tutan frazon, mojose!
Ĉe ni (mi esperante parolas kun mia edzo) temas pri "haŝioj" kaj "fritoj" - la kelneroj ĉi tie "nur" komprenas la usonan kaj la hispanan, do "chopsticks"/ "fries" aŭ "palillos" kaj "fritas" (aŭ "papitas"). Por tiuj en landoj kun luksa tempo, la plilongaj formoj rekomendiĝas. Amenon.

erinja (프로필 보기) 2014년 6월 2일 오전 2:43:43

This is the English forum. Include a translation of your post, please.

lagtendisto (프로필 보기) 2014년 6월 4일 오후 7:03:32

jean-luc:I find funny that the example used for saying there is no need of new roots is a word which should have beed a new root: terpomo ne estas pomo.
Probably Zamenhof borrowed idea of 'terpomo' from Austria-German 'Erdapfel'.

Duko (프로필 보기) 2014년 6월 5일 오후 1:34:45

spreecamper:
Probably Zamenhof borrowed idea of 'terpomo' from Austria-German 'Erdapfel'.
In French, potatoes are called "pomme de terre". ridulo.gif Sounds familiar?

risgrynsgroet (프로필 보기) 2014년 7월 5일 오후 1:50:50

Potatoes also used to be called "earth-apples" in Icelandic and Swedish (jarðepli, jordäpple). Moreso back when Esperanto was created, by now they've been mostly-replaced with words like kartafla (borrowed from Danish which borrowed from German) and potatis etc.

I wonder how wide-spread this "earth-apple" phenomenon is throughout Europe... or throughout the parts of the world that also have apples...

lagtendisto (프로필 보기) 2014년 7월 5일 오후 5:08:24

risgrynsgroet:I wonder how wide-spread this "earth-apple" phenomenon is throughout Europe... or throughout the parts of the world that also have apples...
Maybe first potato plants brought to Europe were sweet potatoes. Most fruits are sweet, most vegatables are not. So, to present it most exotic they gave it fruit name instead of vegatable type one. Also, if polished, skin of potatoes can look same like that one of some apple types. Especially that small dark pimples can be found both on skin of potatoes and i.e. Golden Delicious and Boskoop apples.

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