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Miland (프로필 보기) 2007년 12월 29일 오후 9:20:34
'Dum la pasintaj jaroj, en la laboro de likvido de analfabeteco oni utiligis la fonetikan alfabeton en certaj regionoj..'
I wonder whether an is a typo for some suffix like pra or ne to indicate the 'liquidation' of a non-alphabetical system.
mnlg (프로필 보기) 2007년 12월 30일 오전 8:55:28
Happy new year to everyone!
novatago (프로필 보기) 2007년 12월 30일 오전 10:16:29
mnlg:Therefore, the "an-" is not a prefix, at least not in my opinion.Saluton. In my opinion "an" is a prefix. In fact it isn't an opinion because is evident what it is. Actually is not "an" but "a" with an "n" because "alphabet" begins with a vowel. Is the same prefix as in spanish word "anormal" ("abnormal" in english). That prefix means "lack" in these words. I think Miland is right and the use of the that prefix is a mistake and the writer should write the word with "sen" prefix ("senalfabeteco") or maybe the "mal" prefix ("malalfabeteco"). I'd use "sen".
Ĝis, Novatago.
Miland (프로필 보기) 2007년 12월 30일 오후 2:48:47
But Butler gives the alternative nelegivulo which seems more in harmony with the spirit of E-o.
billpatt1942 (프로필 보기) 2007년 12월 30일 오후 4:27:22
Perhaps the "an" in analfabeteco is a prefix, but the prefix is Greek meaning lack of or non-existence of something. Compare the chemical words anion and cation. In an Esperanto-English Dictionary, by Montague C. Butler, published by the British Esperanto Association in 1967, analfabeteco is listed as a seperate word from alfabeto (i.e., not constructed from alfabeto), and it is listed as a neologism. Butler uses all capital letters, stars, and daggers to indicate Universala Vortaro of the Fundamento, Oficiala Aldono, and words in the Fundamento which are not in the UV. Further, in this dictionary, he says "If it is not in capitals, it is not officialized, but can be used with discretion". Analfabeteco is not capitalized. He defines analfabeteco as illiteracy. Analfabeto means an illiterate person, and Butler compares this to nelegivulo. As an adjective it means illiterate.Hope this is helpful. I don't mean to be pedantic, but I am anyway
Filu (프로필 보기) 2007년 12월 30일 오후 4:32:24
billpatt1942:Hope this is helpful. I don't mean to be pedantic, but I am anywayNo you're not pedantic! And I found your comment interesting. Even though I knew about what was meant by "analfabeteco", for French uses "analphabète" for "illiterate", I learnt something about this word in Esperanto from your post.
mnlg (프로필 보기) 2007년 12월 30일 오후 10:33:10
Miland:But Butler gives the alternative nelegivulo which seems more in harmony with the spirit of E-o.I'd rather say "neleg(i)povulo". -iv- is not an official suffix, and in my opinion it is perfectly replaced by -pov-.
airpath (프로필 보기) 2008년 1월 1일 오후 9:15:39
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