johmue:By the way: Why are we discussing this in English?

Because it is the international language [1], I guess.

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[1] as of February 2015.

johmue:

The one, who's blaming here most, is you.

By the way: Why are we discussing this in English?

Simple, if English is not allowed here, why the English forum attracted the most discussion. Shut the English forum page and let Esperanto page survives.

I participated in UK97 in Hanoi, the shopkeeper did not able to speak English, twelve thousand dong she charged me twenty thousand dong.

Whether I did or did not for esperantujo, those who know me knew the projects that I did.

Think why no one send in the Esperanto articles to Teleskopo ?

If you are from the other side of the world, welcome to ASEAN and take a look of the life of the people especially in Cambodia, Thailand, Laos, Vietnam. Do they need English or Esperanto urgently. If you are merely sitting in front of the PC and talking nonsense challenging people to do this and that. fine, if I can do it, I won't waste time in this forum. Isn't that simple ?

Read here and here.

Leaders should be humble themselves to accept opinions. There are people who have nothing to do and like to log in this site for hours and talk nonsense. But sorry, I am not that kind of people.

Frankly, if the UEA membership recruitment officer cannot convenience the family members to learn Esperanto, how he could convenience others to learn esperanto?

My family members of more than a hundred are learning Esperanto and using it now. What about yours ?

I do not like to show the world what are done and did but your words seem to challenge me to use harsher words

Esperantujo have too many of these people, who cannot accept constructive criticism, read CONSTRUCTIVE but not personal.

I repeat here, why UEA should control the Bulletin One posting from Rottamdam office. Shouldn't the task all on the organising party which is the country esperanto association ? Why with limited resources in HQ and UEA wanted to rule so many things and leave no time for international relationships.

UEA has the worst public relationship as the org. It did not organised the 50 years UNESCO Motivalo and did it as 60 years.

Most of the esperanto meets would have less than 20 people participated and posting the pictures on FB, Twitter and even in KAEM bulletin. A person birthday would be getting more than 30 persons to attend but the Esperanto associations are shouting great.

Yes, I whole heartedly agreed with the criticism, Esperanto is the hobby club.

If UK is organised once in 5 years, the participates would be in different form. Welcome you to 2016 Indonesia Esperanto Congress in Bandung and again in China for the Asia Esperanto Congress, certainly, don't miss out the Japan and Korea national congress. It would be best to Down Under for the Esperanto congress too.

Bemused:According to this link under the heading of "What does the AIS do?" the University of San Marino, in the Republic of San Marino, offers University level courses on a variety of topics in Esperanto, and accreditation of courses by other universities.

I wrote to AIS 3 years ago and received no reply.

What I meant for late teens are short term course, not much on paper and academic, these late teens need to work and support the families. They cannot afford to sit in the library for hours.

As I have link the LCCI, Britain programme, and again stress for administration and managemnet, which will benefit them if not now but in future when they want to begin their business.

As I said, more elites are in the esperantujo and think in the other side of the brain.

Johmue:By the way: Why are we discussing this in English?

There is a silly rigidity on the part of the admin, which results in a red ink reprimand for any post in Esperanto in the English forum.

It is blindingly obvious that there are many who can read a post in English who may feel themselves to have insufficient active command of English to freely join in the discussion.

In my view all national language forums should permit both Esperanto and the national language in posts, and particularly so for the English forum which is clearly read by many who are not native speakers of English.

The absence of posts in Esperanto in the English forum combined with the presence of many for whom English is not a first language could make it look to an outside observer as though the Esperantists themselves don't believe in Esperanto as an International language.

sudanglo:In my view all national language forums should permit both Esperanto and the national language in posts, and particularly so for the English forum which is clearly read by many who are not native speakers of English.

The absence of posts in Esperanto in the English forum combined with the presence of many for whom English is not a first language could make it look to an outside observer as though the Esperantists themselves don't believe in Esperanto as an International language

Couldn't you just move the entire discussion into the Eo language forums and solve the problem that way?

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Couldn't you just move the entire discussion into the Eo language forums and solve the problem that way?

Just as there are Forum members who can read English, but not readily express their opinions in English, there will naturally be among anglalingvanaj beginners those who can read Esperanto but not yet express themselves confidently in Esperanto.

sudanglo:

Couldn't you just move the entire discussion into the Eo language forums and solve the problem that way?

Just as there are Forum members who can read English, but not readily express their opinions in English, there will naturally be among anglalingvanaj beginners those who can read Esperanto but not yet express themselves confidently in Esperanto.

Certainly. I am one of those. I read messages in the E-o forums, and I rarely have to look up a word these days. However, it takes me a long time to compose a comment or response of any significant length in E-o. Admittedly, this is probably due to insufficient efforts at ongoing active use. I can read three other constructed auxiliary languages fairly well, but again, I do not write them freely (and have no opportunity whatever to even try to speak them). Confessedly, this is largely due to motivation and time constraints. If I would try more often, writing would come more easily. As for allowing E-o posts in the national language forums for those who have less than full active use, I am undecided.

I fully agree with sudanglo and tempodivalse. People who come to lernu.net expect to see Esperanto.
If I go to a local bar, I expect to see people drinking. If I go to a local Mexican restaurant and see Mexicans eating there, I feel that I have found the real McCoy! Expecting to see some Esperanto here is a no-brainer. And besides, it might prove to be a little "kick" in the right direction, a little "high" for those visitors to see how much they really do understand, since it would be Esperanto in context.

robbkvansnak:People who come to lernu.net expect to see Esperanto.

Nobody is prohibiting Esperanto in the English forum, only Esperanto-only posts. If you want to use Esperanto you're perfectly free to do so; just provide a translation so that those who do not speak Esperanto can understand you.