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"What if"

by FoxtrotUniform, March 22, 2016

Messages: 8

Language: English

FoxtrotUniform (User's profile) March 22, 2016, 9:45:41 AM

How do we render the expression "What if" in Esperanto? "Kio se" doesn't seem to fit to me. I used "Supozu....tiam, kion mi devus fari?"

Example:

What if the good life never comes, will my life be one constant struggle?

Supozu la bonan vivon neniam alvenos, tiam kion mi devus fari? Cxu mia vivo estu unu sencxesa lukto?

Alkanadi (User's profile) March 22, 2016, 9:56:49 AM

FoxtrotUniform:What if the good life never comes, will my life be one constant struggle?

Supozu la bonan vivon neniam alvenos, tiam kion mi devus fari? Cxu mia vivo estu unu sencxesa lukto?
I am not sure about neniam.

Also, I think it should be:
Supozu la bona vivo...

This is how I would write it.
Kion mi devus fari, se la bona vivo ne alvenus?

thyrolf (User's profile) March 22, 2016, 10:54:34 AM

FoxtrotUniform:How do we render the expression "What if" in Esperanto? "Kio se" doesn't seem to fit to me. I used "Supozu....tiam, kion mi devus fari?"

Example:

What if the good life never comes, will my life be one constant struggle?

Supozu la bonan vivon neniam alvenos, tiam kion mi devus fari? Cxu mia vivo estu unu sencxesa lukto?
Se la bona vivo neniam venos, ĉu mia vivo estos senĉesa batalo?

Ibraesil (User's profile) March 23, 2016, 5:49:49 AM

thyrolf:Se la bona vivo neniam venos, ĉu mia vivo estos senĉesa batalo?
Wouldn't it be "venus" and "estus"?

To my understanding, "-us" is for the conditional mood, and there is a condition (if the good live never comes).

SPadern (User's profile) March 23, 2016, 6:32:54 AM

Ibraesil:
thyrolf:Se la bona vivo neniam venos, ĉu mia vivo estos senĉesa batalo?
Wouldn't it be "venus" and "estus"?

To my understanding, "-us" is for the conditional mood, and there is a condition (if the good live never comes).
I think that it is very difficult to know which verb form to use for the conditional. I mean, sometimes I want to express time along with it: past, present and future. And then -us won't do.

What if it didn't happen?
What if it isn't happening
What if it won't happen?

Does anybody have advice?

richardhall (User's profile) March 23, 2016, 7:31:48 AM

SPadern:I think that it is very difficult to know which verb form to use for the conditional. I mean, sometimes I want to express time along with it: past, present and future. And then -us won't do.
The book/website 'Being Colloquial in Esperanto' is helpful. Here's the section on the conditional: http://pages.ucsd.edu/~dkjordan/eo/colloq/colloq12...

Ibraesil (User's profile) March 23, 2016, 2:31:43 PM

SPadern:I think that it is very difficult to know which verb form to use for the conditional. I mean, sometimes I want to express time along with it: past, present and future. And then -us won't do.

What if it didn't happen?
What if it isn't happening
What if it won't happen?

Does anybody have advice?
I would imagine "estus -inta", "estus -anta" and "estus -onta", but I'm really not sure.

Kirilo81 (User's profile) March 23, 2016, 2:53:24 PM

SPadern:I think that it is very difficult to know which verb form to use for the conditional. I mean, sometimes I want to express time along with it: past, present and future. And then -us won't do.

What if it didn't happen?
What if it isn't happening
What if it won't happen?

Does anybody have advice?
Add adverbs of time (jam, nun, estonte...), as -us doesn't express a temporal relation, only a modal one.

Do not go the lazy way using estus -inta, unless you want to emphasize that something is finished at a given point of time - which may be in the future (just like esta/i/os -inta).

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