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To All My Fellow Americans

af RiotNrrd, 4. nov. 2008

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RiotNrrd (Vise profilen) 4. nov. 2008 05.23.58

GO VOTE.

I'm not going to say who it is I support in today's election, because that's not the point of this post. The point is that today, you DO have a voice in how the next four to eight years goes. However small you think that voice might be, it's infinitely louder than silence.

GO VOTE. If you have to stand in line for six hours, then so be it. DO IT. I'm one of the lucky ones that lives in a state (Oregon) that is 100% vote-by-mail. We don't have lines here, and my vote was in the mail over a week ago. But I've seen on the news that some states have very, very long lines. The fact that people are willing to stand in them for as long as it takes should tell you that it matters to them. Make it matter to you, too.

GO VOTE. And thank you for supporting the candidate that you think is best for the job.

Senlando (Vise profilen) 4. nov. 2008 06.58.08

I totally agree about going out to vote, why have democracy if you don't use it, vote Americans cause you can, and you don't know how many people in the world who would love to have your votes! (its like choosing the worlds president sometimes!)

I'm not American so i defiantly won't tell you who to vote for, but just to remind everyone that one candidate supports partial-birth abortion, which is abortion at any stage of pregnancy (unfortunately we have this in canada, which in my eyes is cold blooded murdering). I'm not going to feed you anymore propaganda then that since we get so many people telling us what to do already everywhere, all the time, but please research this stuff for yourselves, lives depend on it, make an informed decision, some things are even more important then the economy.

Unfortunately in this day and age voting seams to be, voting for the lesser of two evils, but still the lesser evil is a better candidate then the greater evil, so please vote!

Happy Voting!

trojo (Vise profilen) 4. nov. 2008 14.58.53

The lesser of two evils is still evil. I'm voting third party.

But I am definitely voting, and so should everyone who is eligible to vote today.

Lee (Vise profilen) 4. nov. 2008 15.09.31

I agree, everyone should vote!
Senlando:[...] just to remind everyone that one candidate supports partial-birth abortion, which is abortion at any stage of pregnancy [...]
I'd just like to point out that Barack Obama, if that's the candidate you're referring to, supports the ability of states to restrict partial-birth abortions as long as there are provisions to protect the health of the mother. See this site.

Frankouche (Vise profilen) 4. nov. 2008 16.14.30

Some basic questions for usa americans :

- Why do you vote a tuesday and not an "almost not labor" day like sunday?
- I've heard that you elect "great electors" who will elect later the president. So, is there the name of the real (president) candidate on the bill?
- Can the great elector later change his choice to vote for an other candidat?
- Why vote in novembre if the president will begin his job in january?

webgovernor (Vise profilen) 4. nov. 2008 17.27.04

Some basic questions for usa americans :

- Why do you vote a tuesday and not an "almost not labor" day like sunday?

Well, many states, such as Montana, allow for voting a month prior to the "election day". The election day is, essentially, just the "end" day of the election.

- I've heard that you elect "great electors" who will elect later the president. So, is there the name of the real (president) candidate on the bill?

I'm assuming your speaking about the Electoral College, well we pick senators and governors and presidents. Those who we chose for the senate also cast our electoral votes. According to P. Rymes, of the US congress: "The electoral college must continue to exist to prevent the uninformed from making a dire mistake." I'm not saying I agree with the Electoral college, I'm just saying that some people feel there is a need for such a thing.

- Can the great elector later change his choice to vote for an other candidat?

Yes, electoral votes can be changed. In the first presidential session of George W. Bush Jr, he lost the popular vote by 500,000, but that does not mean that they always vote against the public voice, just that they can if they feel like it.

- Why vote in novembre if the president will begin his job in january?

Preparation is the largest factor I would assume. It takes time to change printed materials, and probably other things as well. Part of political endowment is often the time to finalize it. Also, I was unaware that a new candidate would not be active until January, shows what we Americans know okulumo.gif
[EDIT] As others have pointed out, the January thing is due to the current presidential term not ending until that time. I was wrong. [/EDIT]

webgovernor (Vise profilen) 4. nov. 2008 17.32.49

@Lee, thanks for the clarification.

I'm not saying that I'm voting for Obama, I'm just saying that I despise propaganda against either candidate.

Thanks for the clarification, if it wasn't for people like you, there would probably be people that truly believe that Obama is a Muslim Terrorist, or that McCain gets his power from the blood of infants.

I'll agree with the topic, and unlike someone, I will not tell you who to vote for. Good luck with the lines today!

Ironchef (Vise profilen) 4. nov. 2008 17.39.58

Frankouche:Some basic questions for usa americans :

- Why do you vote a tuesday and not an "almost not labor" day like sunday?
- I've heard that you elect "great electors" who will elect later the president. So, is there the name of the real (president) candidate on the bill?
- Can the great elector later change his choice to vote for an other candidat?
- Why vote in novembre if the president will begin his job in january?
1 Elections in the USA always occur on the Tuesday following the first Monday of November by law. That's just the way it has been since 1845. I think it was arbitrary and the date didn't really have any significance other than it was regular.

2 and 3 : I am not really sure of how to answer these (I am not an American citizen) Take a look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_preside...

4. The current president's term does not expire till January. The president's term of office begins at noon on January 20 of the year following the election.

Frankouche (Vise profilen) 4. nov. 2008 17.53.08

Thank you for your response rideto.gif

- Why don't you directly elect your president? Won't you agree with that?
I wouldn't like to elect a "great elector" who will change my choice of president!

trojo (Vise profilen) 4. nov. 2008 18.18.51

Frankouche:- I've heard that you elect "great electors" who will elect later the president. So, is there the name of the real (president) candidate on the bill?
Yes, the real candidate is the name that appears on the ballot.
- Can the great elector later change his choice to vote for an other candidat?
In theory, yes. They are called "faithless electors", but in practice this doesn't really happen often enough to affect anything. In some states it's against the law to be a faithless elector, in others there's no consequence.

Of course, a bigger issue is the fact that the result of the electoral college vote won't always match the popular vote. This happened in 2000 when Bush lost the popular vote but won the "election". This wasn't due to faithless electors but rather it's because a candidate that wins the popular vote in a particular state wins ALL of the electoral votes from that state (so Bush got all of the electoral votes from Ohio and Florida even though his margin of victory was razor-thin in both of those states, especially Florida). And (to a lesser extent) it's also due to the fact that less populated states like Wyoming and Alaska are over-represented in terms of their proportion of electoral votes vs their proportion of the population (in 2000, the thinly-populated "mountain west" states all voted in a bloc for Bush, contributing to his narrow electoral victory). Thus, the electoral college won't always reflect the popular will.

The reason we don't have a direct vote for President boils down to, "we've always done it this way". That isn't a legitimate reason of course, but there you go.

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