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Ŝiaro and liaro can be used for gendered they-forms.

de konesperantidoj, 19 mai 2023

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Langue: English

konesperantidoj (Voir le profil) 19 mai 2023 22:13:02

Apparently, people consider it a problem that they cant express gendered they forms (because translations wont be accurate). Anyway ŝiaro and liaro solves the issue (plus they can have plural forms)!

So the «iŝi» and «ihi» nonsense is unneeded.

Frano (Voir le profil) 20 mai 2023 07:00:41

Ŝiaro and liaro are nouns, «iŝi» and «ihi» pretend to be pronouns.

amigueo (Voir le profil) 20 mai 2023 14:01:07

Frano:Ŝiaro and liaro are nouns, «iŝi» and «ihi» pretend to be pronouns.
Alternatives to SXIARO as plural sxi:

1. ISXI well combines IHI and IVI.
2. SXIAR is friend of SXIARN.
3. SXARI is like SXI.
4. SXIJ defies phonotactics.
5. SXIOJ opens door to "ni=mioj, ivi=vioj".
Possessives: isxia sxaria sxiara sxija.

They are only possibilities.

konesperantidoj (Voir le profil) 20 mai 2023 15:09:28

Frano:Ŝiaro and liaro are nouns, «iŝi» and «ihi» pretend to be pronouns.
lol yeah. Pronouns are just demonstrative nouns referring to beings by a general trait.

amigueo:Alternatives to SXIARO as plural sxi:

They are only possibilities.
Why make an alternative to ŝiaro? It works just fine and can even be formed in fundamento esperanto.

and those possibilities suck and derail from fundamento esperanto.

amigueo (Voir le profil) 22 mai 2023 15:38:58

SXIOJ is a lauxfundamenta alternative to SXIARO.

" Sxioj kantis lauxte kaj arte, sed ni distaj ne auxdis sxi(o)jajn vocxojn.

" ar/jo amiko venis. (Interesting plural particle).

konesperantidoj (Voir le profil) 6 juillet 2023 17:19:37

One could also form li'op' and ŝi'op', as op/ is not limited to just numbers.

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