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Ŝiaro and liaro can be used for gendered they-forms.

fra konesperantidoj,2023 5 19

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Språk: English

konesperantidoj (Å vise profilen) 2023 5 19 22:13:02

Apparently, people consider it a problem that they cant express gendered they forms (because translations wont be accurate). Anyway ŝiaro and liaro solves the issue (plus they can have plural forms)!

So the «iŝi» and «ihi» nonsense is unneeded.

Frano (Å vise profilen) 2023 5 20 07:00:41

Ŝiaro and liaro are nouns, «iŝi» and «ihi» pretend to be pronouns.

amigueo (Å vise profilen) 2023 5 20 14:01:07

Frano:Ŝiaro and liaro are nouns, «iŝi» and «ihi» pretend to be pronouns.
Alternatives to SXIARO as plural sxi:

1. ISXI well combines IHI and IVI.
2. SXIAR is friend of SXIARN.
3. SXARI is like SXI.
4. SXIJ defies phonotactics.
5. SXIOJ opens door to "ni=mioj, ivi=vioj".
Possessives: isxia sxaria sxiara sxija.

They are only possibilities.

konesperantidoj (Å vise profilen) 2023 5 20 15:09:28

Frano:Ŝiaro and liaro are nouns, «iŝi» and «ihi» pretend to be pronouns.
lol yeah. Pronouns are just demonstrative nouns referring to beings by a general trait.

amigueo:Alternatives to SXIARO as plural sxi:

They are only possibilities.
Why make an alternative to ŝiaro? It works just fine and can even be formed in fundamento esperanto.

and those possibilities suck and derail from fundamento esperanto.

amigueo (Å vise profilen) 2023 5 22 15:38:58

SXIOJ is a lauxfundamenta alternative to SXIARO.

" Sxioj kantis lauxte kaj arte, sed ni distaj ne auxdis sxi(o)jajn vocxojn.

" ar/jo amiko venis. (Interesting plural particle).

konesperantidoj (Å vise profilen) 2023 7 6 17:19:37

One could also form li'op' and ŝi'op', as op/ is not limited to just numbers.

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