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nw2394 (მომხმარებლის პროფილი) 27 ნოემბერი, 2006 18:26:21
"Kun vero severa komercajxo forvelkos".
I can't figure out what this means. I sent a message in esperanto, ke mi ne komprenas, but I can't understand the answer either.
To me it reads:
With truth severa (=compliant or conformant or proper or legal from the definition that was being given) wares will fade away/abort/die/become no more. It just doesn't make sense. Who or what is the subject of this sentence even?
The answer started "severa estas vero". Right there I stopped understanding the clarification. How can a noun describe an adjective? How can you have a sentence "adjective is noun".
Can someone help please...
Nick
Kwekubo (მომხმარებლის პროფილი) 28 ნოემბერი, 2006 01:30:31
I agree that it's not the clearest proverb in the world
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Turning to the answer you were sent: remember that Esperanto word order is quite free, and does not necessarily have to be in the subject-verb-object pattern, although that is the most common word order in practice. "Severa estas vero" means exactly the same thing as "vero estas severa", and indeed the same "vero severa estas" or "estas severa vero", although the last two would only really turn up in poetry.
I'm guessing the person who wrote the answer to you was getting across the point that "severa" describes "vero" and not "komercaĵo" in this sentence. If I were Zamenhof, I would have put in a comma to make things clear, like this: "Kun vero severa, komercaĵo forvelkos."
nw2394 (მომხმარებლის პროფილი) 28 ნოემბერი, 2006 02:04:05
Kwekubo:I agree that it's not the clearest proverb in the world.You bet. I'd have probably understood it if I were looking at the web site of a Hindu guru or similar. Being hit with that sort of sentence in vorto de la tago as an example of how to to use "severa" completely threw me.
Kwekubo:Turning to the answer you were sent: remember that Esperanto word order is quite free, and does not necessarily have to be in the subject-verb-object pattern, although that is the most common word order in practice. "Severa estas vero" means exactly the same thing as "vero estas severa", and indeed the same "vero severa estas" or "estas severa vero", although the last two would only really turn up in poetry.Well, yeah, you're right there. As both nouns are nominative singular it is factually ambiguous whether severa is supposed to apply to the truth or to the merchandise. I took it that it should apply to the merchandise - which clearly makes the sentence into complete gibberish.
I'm guessing the person who wrote the answer to you was getting across the point that "severa" describes "vero" and not "komercaĵo" in this sentence. If I were Zamenhof, I would have put in a comma to make things clear, like this: "Kun vero severa, komercaĵo forvelkos."
Thanks for your help.
Nick
T0dd (მომხმარებლის პროფილი) 28 ნოემბერი, 2006 02:28:07
Todd