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pastorant (프로필 보기) 2006년 12월 29일 오전 10:01:24
I checked Wells' dictionary, Butler's Eo-English dictionary, AND ReVo and the best I can come up with is "in that case", like as in the sentence "In that case, we'll have to go".
Am I correct in this assumption?
Cu mi supozas ĝuste?
Niddler (프로필 보기) 2006년 12월 29일 오후 2:36:49
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awake (프로필 보기) 2006년 12월 29일 오후 7:39:35
tiukaze = in that case
iukaze = in any case/in some cases
etc...
pastorant:What does the word tiukaze mean?
I checked Wells' dictionary, Butler's Eo-English dictionary, AND ReVo and the best I can come up with is "in that case", like as in the sentence "In that case, we'll have to go".
Am I correct in this assumption?
Cu mi supozas ĝuste?
Kwekubo (프로필 보기) 2006년 12월 30일 오전 3:12:50
In case the meaning of "kazo" was what was confusing you: kazo originally only meant "case" in the sense of a grammatical declension case, such as the nominative or accusative (this is still the word's only official meaning), but since the twenties extra meanings have been creeping in and the Esperanto "kazo" is now more or less synonymous with the English "case". If you prefer, you could say "tiuokaze" (i.e. tiu-okaz-e), but there's really no obligation to do so at this stage. Both would be good Esperanto. Claude Piron explains this in more detail here.
Filu (프로필 보기) 2007년 1월 2일 오후 5:55:45
Would that be proper Esperanto??? Have anyone ever came accross this word? (That could be a way to confirm its validity, if the text read at that moment was written by a skilled esperantist, I guess...)
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T0dd (프로필 보기) 2007년 1월 2일 오후 7:42:00
Filu:It just poped in my mind a few days ago that one might want to use the word maltiukaze, in the sense of "in any other case than that case" (perhaps "unless it is the case" would be better English?).How about "alikaze"?
Filu (프로필 보기) 2007년 1월 2일 오후 11:14:29
T0dd:He he! It seems like I was going the long long way around it!Filu:It just poped in my mind a few days ago that one might want to use the word maltiukaze, in the sense of "in any other case than that case" (perhaps "unless it is the case" would be better English?).How about "alikaze"?
Thanks for your reply.
Filu (프로필 보기) 2007년 1월 3일 오전 1:37:49
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Obviously, there would always be an easy multi-word solution, like "en ĉiuj aliaj kazoj". And perhaps "nekaze"(?)
Just asking...
Le Hibou (프로필 보기) 2007년 1월 3일 오전 7:59:37
Filu:Uuh! I was only wondering if the word alikaze would include any other case, or if it would not instead mean "in some other case" (not necessarily them all)I read somewhere (Piron?) that the word "jeskaze" was used, as in meaning "if you agree...", or equivalent to tiukaze, so I guess "nekaze" could mean "otherwise" or "in all other cases". I think there are many different possibilities! Even "maltiukaze", although it sounds a little clumsy, is correct, IMO. If the difference between "in all other cases" and "in some other cases" is important, then the multi-word solution is certainly more precise: "en ĉiuj aliaj kazoj" or "en iuj aliaj kazoj".![]()
Obviously, there would always be an easy multi-word solution, like "en ĉiuj aliaj kazoj". And perhaps "nekaze"(?)
Just asking...