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Traveling in Esperantujo

Polaris-ისა და 9 აგვისტო, 2009-ის მიერ

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Miland (მომხმარებლის პროფილი) 10 აგვისტო, 2009 20:15:50

ceigered:[ don't get why the accusative was used originally./quote]In my view it's a substitute for a preposition like je or dum. For an expression like 'week after week', Esperanto would need a preposition to cover the first 'week' which English would not.

Rogir (მომხმარებლის პროფილი) 10 აგვისტო, 2009 21:27:52

Just as in the expression 'this week' as in 'this week I went to the UK' would be translated as 'ĉi tiun semajnon'. If a phrase is a prepositional phrase without a preposition, in Esperanto you need an accusative.

ceigered (მომხმარებლის პროფილი) 11 აგვისტო, 2009 04:28:19

Rogir:Just as in the expression 'this week' as in 'this week I went to the UK' would be translated as 'ĉi tiun semajnon'. If a phrase is a prepositional phrase without a preposition, in Esperanto you need an accusative.
Oooh I see, cheers mates.
So it's like, say, Latin or Old English case substitution?

As for Hotel California Esperanto..
"Wilche sprachen sprechen Sie? Seine name ist der name des unser spraches, und wir haben 'krieg der opinionen' in unser foren" lango.gif

They'll probably reply with something like "We are sorry to inform you of this tragedy but your piece of German text had approximately 25.6 errors, including 15 which were declension-related." in immaculate English lango.gif

(At times like these, we need Folkspraak!)

Miland (მომხმარებლის პროფილი) 11 აგვისტო, 2009 08:23:08

ceigered:So it's like, say, Latin or Old English case substitution?
I've never studied Latin or Old English, but maybe Rogir would know.

Miland (მომხმარებლის პროფილი) 11 აგვისტო, 2009 09:21:08

ceigered:As for Hotel Esperanto..
I've just written a protest to Hotel E on their website, in Esperanto. Perhaps, if others do so, they will bother to get someone knows the language to translate the messages.

ceigered (მომხმარებლის პროფილი) 11 აგვისტო, 2009 13:08:04

Miland:
ceigered:As for Hotel Esperanto..
I've just written a protest to Hotel E on their website, in Esperanto. Perhaps, if others do so, they will bother to get someone knows the language to translate the messages.
well, i don't see the need in protesting other than for pulling a little joke on them, as 'esperanto' is very commonly found outside of the language 'esperanto' okulumo.gif

Although i would like to protest against 'fcuk' (french connection UK) for having a confusing name lango.gif

Pharoah (მომხმარებლის პროფილი) 11 აგვისტო, 2009 13:47:15

I think it would be better to be friendly with them than to "protest". It's possible they haven't actually heard of the Esperanto language yet.

Really though, someone there should speak it. If I were lost in Germany and saw a hotel Esperanto, I'd think someone there might speak the language and be able to help me.

Maverynthia (მომხმარებლის პროფილი) 11 აგვისტო, 2009 14:14:19

Miland:
ceigered:As for Hotel Esperanto..
I've just written a protest to Hotel E on their website, in Esperanto. Perhaps, if others do so, they will bother to get someone knows the language to translate the messages.
I think another "different" way to protest would be to send them E-mail in Esperanto asking about lodgings, how big the rooms are, rates etc. :3

andogigi (მომხმარებლის პროფილი) 11 აგვისტო, 2009 14:38:28

Maverynthia:
Miland:
ceigered:As for Hotel Esperanto..
I've just written a protest to Hotel E on their website, in Esperanto. Perhaps, if others do so, they will bother to get someone knows the language to translate the messages.
I think another "different" way to protest would be to send them E-mail in Esperanto asking about lodgings, how big the rooms are, rates etc. :3
I already checked. They don't have an actual e-mail address. Just a spot on the website to contact them.

First, we're automatically assuming that they do not speak our language, just because they haven't bothered to translate their website. This might not be the case.

Secondly, we want to encourage them to learn the language if they don't know it. We don't want to alienate them. I'm sure Miland did nothing to offend, but I want to be sure that everyone else acts the same.

I suggest we wait and see if they speak the language or not. If they don't, we can decide on ways to encourage them.

Pharoah (მომხმარებლის პროფილი) 11 აგვისტო, 2009 14:45:57

I already checked. They don't have an actual e-mail address. Just a spot on the website to contact them.

First, we're automatically assuming that they do not speak our language, just because they haven't bothered to translate their website. This might not be the case.

Secondly, we want to encourage them to learn the language if they don't know it. We don't want to alienate them. I'm sure Miland did nothing to offend, but I want to be sure that everyone else acts the same.

I suggest we wait and see if they speak the language or not. If they don't, we can decide on ways to encourage them.
That is exactly what I was trying to say. Many people would be interested in Esperanto but just haven't heard of it yet.

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