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언어: English
erinja (프로필 보기) 2009년 10월 3일 오후 4:38:31
ceigered:Lets say though, on the odd chance that one of us (I feel confident that should any person ever make that error, they would have learned their lesson and not repeat it. And furthermore, that person would have learned a valuable vocabulary word that would certainly help them immensely if they should ever wish to talk about linen production) did happen to make that mistake at one point of time, then had to find out what flax was, surely there'd be no punishment to that unnamed person... right?
And furthermore, I feel glad for that person that they should have made the error with filino, rather than with [fi/kant/o][fik/ant/o] or [fi/kat/o][fik/at/o]
horsto (프로필 보기) 2009년 10월 3일 오후 5:14:38
Perhaps one reason why he didn't do this was, that he had many more prefixes and suffixes in the beginning, but he deleted one after the other when he found out, that they didn't make the language easier.
The other reason is of course, that he wanted to take the roots from other languages.
Or perhaps he knew, that is's not possible at all to achieve uniqueness, because if you combine roots, then everything can happen.
erinja (프로필 보기) 2009년 10월 3일 오후 6:06:00
horsto:Nevertheless, it's a pity that Zamenhof didn't decide to make the language more unique,He did decide this, and that's the reason why Esperanto doesn't have more of these "double forms" than it would otherwise. There are countless cases where the Esperanto word is slightly modified from its more "international" form, to avoid confusion with a root and affix combination. But with such a flexible language and so many roots and suffixes, you can't avoid them all.
For example, "banquet" has a t in most languages. But it's "bankedo" with a d in Esperanto. Why? Because banketo could be read as bank/et/o (a small bank). There are lots of examples like that.
NiteMirror (프로필 보기) 2009년 10월 4일 오전 10:09:22
... tiam Nikodemo estas la batanto kaj Jozefo estas la batato.
using lernu's own dictionary, it translates out as "Then Nikodemo (Nicholas?) is the batter and Joseph is the sweet potato."
ceigered (프로필 보기) 2009년 10월 4일 오전 11:43:51
NiteMirror:Think I just stumbled upon this kinda thing myself. In exercise 22 of the Fundamento here there's this sentence:Sounds like something I would say. What's the batato meant to be in cricket (or baseball) terminology? The bowler/pitcher? or the ball? (after all it's the thing being hit!). Or maybe Nikodemo was lonely and named his sweet potato to make it seem more human...
... tiam Nikodemo estas la batanto kaj Jozefo estas la batato.
using lernu's own dictionary, it translates out as "Then Nikodemo (Nicholas?) is the batter and Joseph is the sweet potato."
And furthermore, I feel glad for that person that they should have made the error with filino, rather than with [fi/kant/o][fik/ant/o] or [fi/kat/o][fik/at/o]Vi ja pravas - from now on I shall refer to shameful musical numbers as 'Fa kanto'
(actually, I've just noticed, in the lernu dicitonary 'fi' is a verb, therefore you'd think 'fa' would be the adjective form, however I can only find 'fia' (nasty). Am I doing something wrong here?) 
ceigered (프로필 보기) 2009년 10월 4일 오후 12:15:17
Mutusen:No, fi- is a prefix, or it can be used alone as an interjection to show disgust or disdain. I don't know why the Esperanto-English dictionary in Lernu translates it as a verb.Ah you're right (I just checked the EO-EO dictionary). Does that mean 'fia' is still valid? Nonetheless I guess I should then change that entry in the EO-Eng vortaro (unless someones against that idea?).
erinja (프로필 보기) 2009년 10월 9일 오전 7:06:24