translation "nova kanto" (Tone) song into English
de qwertz, 2010-februaro-09
Mesaĝoj: 33
Lingvo: English
qwertz (Montri la profilon) 2010-februaro-12 13:20:38
trojo:•1•-Shake awakeI'm not completly sure for that. Or do you english-natives say that this way? Is there missing after "oh" an: "this", "the" or "a" or something similar to get it read more fluently?
oh green call!
•1•-Shake awake
oh, this green call!
•1•-Veke vibru, (•2•-je..s,)
veke vibru, (•2•-jes,)
•1•-Veke vibru
verda voko!
Thx,
jan aleksan (Montri la profilon) 2010-februaro-12 16:02:27
qwertz:I think it doesn't really matter, The aim was to have words repeating the sound "v" (sound repetitions appear quite often in his songs).trojo:•1•-Shake awakeI'm not completly sure for that. Or do you english-natives say that this way? Is there missing after "oh" an: "this", "the" or "a" or something similar to get it read more fluently?
oh green call!
•1•-Shake awake
oh, this green call!
•1•-Veke vibru, (•2•-je..s,)
veke vibru, (•2•-jes,)
•1•-Veke vibru
verda voko!
Thx,
trojo (Montri la profilon) 2010-februaro-12 21:05:47
qwertz:I put "oh" in there and left out the indefinite article because I wanted to clarify somehow in the English version that "verda voko" is NOT the object of "veke vibru" -- otherwise it would have originally been "veke vibrigu verdan vokon" ("shake a green call awake").trojo:•1•-Shake awakeI'm not completly sure for that. Or do you english-natives say that this way? Is there missing after "oh" an: "this", "the" or "a" or something similar to get it read more fluently?
oh green call!
•1•-Shake awake
oh, this green call!
•1•-Veke vibru, (•2•-je..s,)
veke vibru, (•2•-jes,)
•1•-Veke vibru
verda voko!
Thx,
The lyrics as they are could be seen as either an imperative sentence addressing the green call in the second person ("shake awake, oh Green Call"), with no a/an/the because you are talking to the Green Call directly as if it were a person (this is how I interpreted it in my translation), or, alternatively, "veke vibru verda voko" could be interpreted as a cohortative sentence with "a green call" in the third person, meaning something like "may a green call shake awake" or "a green call should shake awake". This latter interpretation is likely closer to the original intent, but it would be very awkward to word it in English with "shake awake" coming first and "green call" coming after.
English doesn't have as free a word order as E-o, but I did the best I could. Does any of my explaination make any sense at all?
qwertz (Montri la profilon) 2010-februaro-12 23:10:45
Thanks everybody for this interesting discussion.
qwertz (Montri la profilon) 2010-februaro-14 16:17:52
Done.
Tone: Nova Kanto | esperanto with english subtitle (karaokeo)
Tone: Nova Kanto | original audio = esperanto | lyrics = english (Imagine that video in 1024x768px screen resolution. How to name that version in english? "adapted"?)
Done.
ĝis poste,
Uvi (Montri la profilon) 2010-februaro-15 20:26:24
Of course, I can't speak objectively: I loooooove rap, all kinds of it. I grew up with it, I write some of it myself, and produce music for it myself (among other genres). Did I mention I love it?
I have to admit, though, Tone comes accross as sub-par to me. That's my humble opinion of course. The lyrics sound more retrograde than Run DMC's early 1980's material and the beats are so botched that I'm 30 seconds away from offering the guy some of my material for free. Same opinion for Pafklik.
At the same time, I have to recognize that rap is at its very first babysteps within the Esperanto culture and, although there's a serious lack of talent (that's my humble opinion again) I have to give respect to the honest energy being invested in creating fresh fashionable material in Esperanto. For now, most of the lyrical content in Esperanto rap is far from bold, but I'm confident it'll catch up soon enough. A lot of people learn Spanish just because they love the music. The same happens with Arabic...so why not with Esperanto? It'll catch up, you'll see
No one said being a pioneer was easy.
qwertz (Montri la profilon) 2010-februaro-16 18:11:27
Uvi:Qwertz, I'll have to hand it to you: that's one healthy dose of enthusiasm you have. So go ahead and have the song translated.Thanks for your commendation but Nova Kanto was 100% translated by trojo. I only made the subtiteled karaoke for that.
Uvi:Dendemann's lyrics brought me back to hip hop back again. Or better: brought me back with very strong focus at the lyrics. From that it was only a small step to the "poetry slam" topic. Due to my experiences with the esperanto folks onsite poetry slams can involve other esperantists who don't like hip hop music.
Of course, I can't speak objectively: I loooooove rap, all kinds of it. I grew up with it, I write some of it myself, and produce music for it myself (among other genres). Did I mention I love it?
Uvi:Definitly. Music can transport a lot of messages. Including the interest in a language.
At the same time, I have to recognize that rap is at its very first babysteps within the Esperanto culture and, although there's a serious lack of talent (that's my humble opinion again) I have to give respect to the honest energy being invested in creating fresh fashionable material in Esperanto. For now, most of the lyrical content in Esperanto rap is far from bold, but I'm confident it'll catch up soon enough. A lot of people learn Spanish just because they love the music. The same happens with Arabic...so why not with Esperanto? It'll catch up, you'll see
Uvi: No one said being a pioneer was easy.
qwertz (Montri la profilon) 2010-septembro-01 19:17:00
*grrrr* "Es-pe-ran-to estas nova kanto, mia kaj via la lingvo internacia"
Julia (prezidanto de germana esperanto junularo) makes a interview to the German radio station "Radio Apollo". It's no webradio only, furthermore it sends some hours daily at normal radio frequency at the East-German Saxony area. Guess how that interview is "audio-wrapped".
3:55min | Radio Apollo (German wikipedia)
philodice (Montri la profilon) 2010-septembro-02 02:58:54
Genjix (Montri la profilon) 2010-septembro-02 19:51:20
philodice:I am trying to get one of the music producers in my house to make some music using Eo but they are not into it.Permisu ilin ke kreos tedan muzikon kiu similas ĉiujn aliajn muzikojn