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Lyle

de Kalantir, 12 de maio de 2011

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Kalantir (Mostrar o perfil) 12 de maio de 2011 19:05:42

Hi. I'm new here and I'm a little confused about how to spell my name in Esperanto. My name is Lyle, pronounced (in english)"lie"-"ole". Would that be spelled Laiol or Lajol or something else?

Kraughne (Mostrar o perfil) 12 de maio de 2011 19:37:09

The name "Lyle" is one syllable, not two. The y in your name is a diphthong, which means it will often make the word sound as if there are two syllables.

So the Esperanto version of your name is Lajlo, I believe.

Kalantir (Mostrar o perfil) 12 de maio de 2011 19:45:24

Kraughne:The name "Lyle" is one syllable, not two. The y in your name is a diphthong, which means it will often make the word sound as if there are two syllables.

So the Esperanto version of your name is Lajlo, I believe.
Thank you for the response. But I still have a couple questions.

Where does the o at the end come from?(Wouldn't just be Lajl then?) Also, what is the difference between 'j' and 'i'. As far as I can tell, they produce the same sound.

Kraughne (Mostrar o perfil) 12 de maio de 2011 20:06:58

Kalantir:Where does the o at the end come from?(Wouldn't just be Lajl then?) Also, what is the difference between 'j' and 'i'. As far as I can tell, they produce the same sound.
Well, the o at the end indicates a noun. It would sound bizarre to most speakers of Esperanto to have a dipthong with no other vowel following in the word.

Also, j and i don't strictly produce the same sound. J always makes the equivalent of the consonant y sound in English, while i always makes the sound "ee". If your name were rendered in Esperanto as "Lailo," it would be pronounced "Lah-EE-low."

Kalantir (Mostrar o perfil) 12 de maio de 2011 20:11:29

Kraughne:
Well, the o at the end indicates a noun. It would sound bizarre to most speakers of Esperanto to have a dipthong with no other vowel following in the word.

Also, j and i don't strictly produce the same sound. J always makes the equivalent of the consonant y sound in English, while i always makes the sound "ee". If your name were rendered in Esperanto as "Lailo," it would be pronounced "Lah-EE-low."
I see. So does this mean that everyone's name ends in 'o' since everyone's name is a noun?

Kraughne (Mostrar o perfil) 12 de maio de 2011 20:20:17

Kalantir:I see. So does this mean that everyone's name ends in 'o'?
Whenever possible, yes, but really just for the objective case.

Let's take the name Sara for example. It ends in A (which is the ending for adjectives in Esperanto), but it's capitalized, so Esperanto speakers will be able to recognize it as a noun. But if we need to make the name an object, we can just attach "-on" (often with the hyphen included) to the end, as in this phrase: Iu frapis Sara-on. ("Someone hit Sara.")

If Sara is the subject in the sentence, you don't have to attach anything to the end (e.g. Sara frapis iun, "Sara hit someone").

geo63 (Mostrar o perfil) 12 de maio de 2011 20:23:27

Kalantir:I see. So does this mean that everyone's name ends in 'o' since everyone's name is a noun?
No, names of people do not have to end in 'o'. Only common names have their esperanto counterparts. The other do not - e.g. Chinese names. So you may also say:

Mia nomo estas Lajl (though Lajlo sounds better in esperanto).

tommjames (Mostrar o perfil) 12 de maio de 2011 20:31:35

Kraughne:we can just attach "-on" (often with the hyphen included) to the end, as in this phrase: Iu frapis Sara-on. ("Someone hit Sara.")
If the name ends with a vowel it's also possible to just tack the "n" on the end, so "Iu frapis Saran", like from PMEG: "Ĉu vi konas Annan?"

Kalantir (Mostrar o perfil) 12 de maio de 2011 20:40:09

Cool. Thank you for clearing all that up for me.

Kraughne (Mostrar o perfil) 12 de maio de 2011 20:58:18

Kalantir:Cool. Thank you for clearing all that up for me.
If you ever have any more questions, we have answers.

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