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pastorant (Å vise profilen) 2006 12 29 10:01:24
I checked Wells' dictionary, Butler's Eo-English dictionary, AND ReVo and the best I can come up with is "in that case", like as in the sentence "In that case, we'll have to go".
Am I correct in this assumption?
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Niddler (Å vise profilen) 2006 12 29 14:36:49
awake (Å vise profilen) 2006 12 29 19:39:35
tiukaze = in that case
iukaze = in any case/in some cases
etc...
pastorant:What does the word tiukaze mean?
I checked Wells' dictionary, Butler's Eo-English dictionary, AND ReVo and the best I can come up with is "in that case", like as in the sentence "In that case, we'll have to go".
Am I correct in this assumption?
Cu mi supozas ĝuste?
Kwekubo (Å vise profilen) 2006 12 30 03:12:50
In case the meaning of "kazo" was what was confusing you: kazo originally only meant "case" in the sense of a grammatical declension case, such as the nominative or accusative (this is still the word's only official meaning), but since the twenties extra meanings have been creeping in and the Esperanto "kazo" is now more or less synonymous with the English "case". If you prefer, you could say "tiuokaze" (i.e. tiu-okaz-e), but there's really no obligation to do so at this stage. Both would be good Esperanto. Claude Piron explains this in more detail here.
awake (Å vise profilen) 2006 12 30 04:01:13
Kwekubo: Claude Piron explains this in more detail here.
Filu (Å vise profilen) 2007 1 2 17:55:45
Would that be proper Esperanto??? Have anyone ever came accross this word? (That could be a way to confirm its validity, if the text read at that moment was written by a skilled esperantist, I guess...)
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T0dd (Å vise profilen) 2007 1 2 19:42:00
Filu:It just poped in my mind a few days ago that one might want to use the word maltiukaze, in the sense of "in any other case than that case" (perhaps "unless it is the case" would be better English?).How about "alikaze"?
Filu (Å vise profilen) 2007 1 2 23:14:29
T0dd:He he! It seems like I was going the long long way around it!Filu:It just poped in my mind a few days ago that one might want to use the word maltiukaze, in the sense of "in any other case than that case" (perhaps "unless it is the case" would be better English?).How about "alikaze"?
Thanks for your reply.
Filu (Å vise profilen) 2007 1 3 01:37:49
Obviously, there would always be an easy multi-word solution, like "en ĉiuj aliaj kazoj". And perhaps "nekaze"(?)
Just asking...
Le Hibou (Å vise profilen) 2007 1 3 07:59:37
Filu:Uuh! I was only wondering if the word alikaze would include any other case, or if it would not instead mean "in some other case" (not necessarily them all)I read somewhere (Piron?) that the word "jeskaze" was used, as in meaning "if you agree...", or equivalent to tiukaze, so I guess "nekaze" could mean "otherwise" or "in all other cases". I think there are many different possibilities! Even "maltiukaze", although it sounds a little clumsy, is correct, IMO. If the difference between "in all other cases" and "in some other cases" is important, then the multi-word solution is certainly more precise: "en ĉiuj aliaj kazoj" or "en iuj aliaj kazoj".
Obviously, there would always be an easy multi-word solution, like "en ĉiuj aliaj kazoj". And perhaps "nekaze"(?)
Just asking...