translation help
от qwertz, 30 октомври 2011
Съобщения: 28
Език: English
qwertz (Покажи профила) 01 ноември 2011, 20:28:50
sudanglo:Thanks, sudanglo. So, the expression "Get the hell out of here" also has no "master-slave" idea.
BUT, 'change your position to me with maximum distance' would be a very good piece of dialogue for an alien or a robot in a Science Fiction film.
3rdblade (Покажи профила) 01 ноември 2011, 23:01:52
'Abscond' is a good equivalent verb for this phrase, in EO it's 'forkuri'.
horsto (Покажи профила) 01 ноември 2011, 23:42:22
3rdblade:This is probably too murky and not a clear enough expression, but for the sake of creativity, how about "Ni iritu!" (Let's be gone!). 'Iriti' also means 'to irritate', which has a loose connection to 'hell', an irritating place to say the least.Perhaps this is creative, but nobody will understand this. iri is not a transitive verb, therefore it's not possible to use it as a passive participle.
Chainy (Покажи профила) 01 ноември 2011, 23:43:55
sudanglo:'Get the hell out of here' is an emphatic way of saying go away (iru for).yes, the 'hell' adds emphasis, urgency. So, it's not really good to translate it with more offensive terms such as 'forfikiĝu!' (= F off)
sudanglo:How about 'Feku for'?This seems a milder form of 'forfikiĝu', but still offensive. For 'get the hell out of here', the urgency etc is paramount, not the notion of offending someone.
sudanglo:Do you like 'Vaporiĝu', or 'Malaperu tuj', or 'Ek! elen! nun!?Yes, they seem pretty good for 'get the hell out of here!'. Or you could say "Foriĝu tuj/rapide". Or perhaps you could add 'diable': "Foriĝu, diable!"
darkweasel (Покажи профила) 02 ноември 2011, 09:42:38
horsto:Well, in general it actually is possible, you can talk about an irata vojo (= a way on which people are going). However, that definitely doesn’t mean "to be gone".3rdblade:This is probably too murky and not a clear enough expression, but for the sake of creativity, how about "Ni iritu!" (Let's be gone!). 'Iriti' also means 'to irritate', which has a loose connection to 'hell', an irritating place to say the least.Perhaps this is creative, but nobody will understand this. iri is not a transitive verb, therefore it's not possible to use it as a passive participle.
sudanglo (Покажи профила) 02 ноември 2011, 12:53:08
tommjames (Покажи профила) 02 ноември 2011, 15:03:29
horsto:
darkweasel:There's some further information in PMEG about why "irata" is possible, starting at "Tamen en kelkaj okazoj oni uzas pasivan participon de normale senobjekta verbo."
sudanglo (Покажи профила) 02 ноември 2011, 19:43:30