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od uživatele qwertz ze dne 30. října 2011
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qwertz (Ukázat profil) 1. listopadu 2011 20:28:50
sudanglo:Thanks, sudanglo. So, the expression "Get the hell out of here" also has no "master-slave" idea.
BUT, 'change your position to me with maximum distance' would be a very good piece of dialogue for an alien or a robot in a Science Fiction film.
3rdblade (Ukázat profil) 1. listopadu 2011 23:01:52
'Abscond' is a good equivalent verb for this phrase, in EO it's 'forkuri'.
horsto (Ukázat profil) 1. listopadu 2011 23:42:22
3rdblade:This is probably too murky and not a clear enough expression, but for the sake of creativity, how about "Ni iritu!" (Let's be gone!). 'Iriti' also means 'to irritate', which has a loose connection to 'hell', an irritating place to say the least.Perhaps this is creative, but nobody will understand this. iri is not a transitive verb, therefore it's not possible to use it as a passive participle.
Chainy (Ukázat profil) 1. listopadu 2011 23:43:55
sudanglo:'Get the hell out of here' is an emphatic way of saying go away (iru for).yes, the 'hell' adds emphasis, urgency. So, it's not really good to translate it with more offensive terms such as 'forfikiĝu!' (= F off)
sudanglo:How about 'Feku for'?This seems a milder form of 'forfikiĝu', but still offensive. For 'get the hell out of here', the urgency etc is paramount, not the notion of offending someone.
sudanglo:Do you like 'Vaporiĝu', or 'Malaperu tuj', or 'Ek! elen! nun!?Yes, they seem pretty good for 'get the hell out of here!'. Or you could say "Foriĝu tuj/rapide". Or perhaps you could add 'diable': "Foriĝu, diable!"
darkweasel (Ukázat profil) 2. listopadu 2011 9:42:38
horsto:Well, in general it actually is possible, you can talk about an irata vojo (= a way on which people are going). However, that definitely doesn’t mean "to be gone".3rdblade:This is probably too murky and not a clear enough expression, but for the sake of creativity, how about "Ni iritu!" (Let's be gone!). 'Iriti' also means 'to irritate', which has a loose connection to 'hell', an irritating place to say the least.Perhaps this is creative, but nobody will understand this. iri is not a transitive verb, therefore it's not possible to use it as a passive participle.
sudanglo (Ukázat profil) 2. listopadu 2011 12:53:08
tommjames (Ukázat profil) 2. listopadu 2011 15:03:29
horsto:
darkweasel:There's some further information in PMEG about why "irata" is possible, starting at "Tamen en kelkaj okazoj oni uzas pasivan participon de normale senobjekta verbo."
sudanglo (Ukázat profil) 2. listopadu 2011 19:43:30