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Word for "a" in Esperanto

от Bemused, 18 декабря 2011 г.

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Bemused (Показать профиль) 18 декабря 2011 г., 8:20:57

Hi
In the dictionary I am told that there is no Esperanto word for a(En).
However the word for an(En) is ano(Eo).
Would it be acceptable to use ano in Esperanto where one would use "a" in English?
Cheers

miropiro (Показать профиль) 18 декабря 2011 г., 8:35:04

Bemused:Hi
In the dictionary I am told that there is no Esperanto word for a(En).
However the word for an(En) is ano(Eo).
Would it be acceptable to use ano in Esperanto where one would use "a" in English?
Cheers
Yeah, it is because, that you do not have to use "a" or "an" in Esperanto. If you want to use "the", you will use "la" (e.g. the cat = la kato). However, if you want to say in Esperanto "a cat", say simply "kato", because Esperanto does not have "a" and "an".

darkweasel (Показать профиль) 18 декабря 2011 г., 9:30:40

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What dictionary told you there was any relation between English-language "an" and Esperanto ano? Esperanto ano means "member".

Chainy (Показать профиль) 18 декабря 2011 г., 11:01:37

Yes, at the moment, when you type 'an' in the Lernu dictionary for English-Eo, you are told that the translation is 'ano'! It's just a random and very silly mistake in the dictionary.

I've now changed the dictionary entry to this:
an = There is no indefinite article in Esperanto. "An apple = "Pomo"; "The apple" = "La pomo"

erinja (Показать профиль) 18 декабря 2011 г., 14:07:43

I wonder if an made it into the dictionary as a quasi-suffix.

Like Christian - kristano; republican - respublikano, etc.

Chainy (Показать профиль) 18 декабря 2011 г., 16:33:21

erinja:I wonder if an made it into the dictionary as a quasi-suffix.

Like Christian - kristano; republican - respublikano, etc.
Maybe you're right. I can't think of any other explanation. Still, it's rather a bizarre thing to put in the dictionary with absolutely no explanation as to the fact that it's relating to such a 'quasi-suffix'!

I think we can safely leave that one out.

erinja (Показать профиль) 19 декабря 2011 г., 2:06:22

Chainy:I think we can safely leave that one out.
I fully agree.

And I doubt that anyone would look up the English -an suffix anyway. They would more likely look up the complete word - Christian, republican, etc.

Fenris_kcf (Показать профиль) 19 декабря 2011 г., 7:44:24

As already said there is no indefinite article in Esperanto. However in some situations one really want's to emphasize the "indefiniteness" and then he can use "iu"/io" or "unu".

Actually I'd prefer to have an indefinite article. I never really know how to express abstract things, where I would usually use no article. For example:

"Liberty is something worth fighting for"

Would it translate to "Libereco indas batali por ĝi." or should I place a "la" in front of "libereco"?

darkweasel (Показать профиль) 19 декабря 2011 г., 8:31:55

Fenris_kcf:
"Liberty is something worth fighting for"

Would it translate to "Libereco indas batali por ĝi." or should I place a "la" in front of "libereco"?
concerning the use of an article i think it's possible both with and without "la".
however your translation is somewhat strange, i would say: por (la) libereco indas batali, or if you want to conserve the english construction: (la) libereco estas io, por kio indas batali.

sudanglo (Показать профиль) 19 декабря 2011 г., 9:55:05

Does the use of 'iu' or 'unu' emphasize indefiniteness?

Unu tagon, dum mi butikumis en la urbo, iu strangulo haltigis min kaj komencis prediki al mi pri Esperanto.

I'd translate that into English as 'One day, when I was doing some shopping in the town, this weirdo stopped me and ..,'

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