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Trouble with -n

ya sxikanto, 13 Machi 2012

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Hyperboreus (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 13 Machi 2012 10:56:59 alasiri

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sxikanto (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 13 Machi 2012 11:35:25 alasiri

So oni = third-person non-specific "you". Got it!

So in the sentence "Oni skribas per skribilo" the word "per" is the preposition. Therefore putting an -n on the end, "Oni skribas per skribilon" would say that you're trying to denote a particular direction. And in this case especially, the sentence "Oni skribas per skribilon" really wouldn't make any sense, as trying to use direction with that sentence wouldn't make any sense.

Hyperboreus (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 13 Machi 2012 11:42:03 alasiri

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Epovikipedio (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 14 Machi 2012 12:05:14 asubuhi

sxikanto:Saluton! I decided to learn Esperanto. English is my native, and only, language at the moment.

I'm working my way through Bildoj kaj demandoj, which is my only exposure to learning Esperanto so far. I'm up to lesson 35, but I'm still having some confusion about using -n.

In the lessons we learn that -n can also be used to signify an amount, to express quantity or measure.

So, we have something like this: "La pilko kostas ok stelojn." We put -n on "steloj" to signify it's being included in an amount.

We also have: "Unu horo havas sesdek minutojn." Again, we have -n on "minutoj" to signify an amount of minutes.

But then we have: "Sur la tablo estas du pomoj." But there's no -n, even though we're talking about an amount of "pomoj" and it's still an answer to a kiom / kiom da question. Why is there no -n?
The -n is for accusative in Esperanto. It is used for direct object.

sxikanto (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 14 Machi 2012 12:36:12 asubuhi

Thanks for all of the help, I really appreciate it ridulo.gif.

Hyperboreus (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 14 Machi 2012 12:41:53 asubuhi

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darkweasel (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 14 Machi 2012 6:07:16 asubuhi

Hyperboreus:
Exactely, the n-ending after prepositions only makes sense with spatial/temporal prepositions.
When does it make sense with temporal prepositions? demando.gif

acdibble (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 14 Machi 2012 5:27:33 alasiri

darkweasel:
Hyperboreus:
Exactely, the n-ending after prepositions only makes sense with spatial/temporal prepositions.
When does it make sense with temporal prepositions? demando.gif
"en la estontecon" perhaps? Or in other settings where one is time travelling and speaking Esperanto.

darkweasel (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 14 Machi 2012 7:15:26 alasiri

acdibble:
darkweasel:
Hyperboreus:
Exactely, the n-ending after prepositions only makes sense with spatial/temporal prepositions.
When does it make sense with temporal prepositions? demando.gif
"en la estontecon" perhaps? Or in other settings where one is time travelling and speaking Esperanto.
OK, this is a metaphorical usage. But you couldn’t use an accusative after dum, for example.

Hyperboreus (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 14 Machi 2012 8:01:17 alasiri

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