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fra sudanglo,2012 5 17

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fajrkapo (Å vise profilen) 2012 5 18 11:07:41

A priori: antaŭe
A posteriori: poste

bkm

Do you use them in english?
Ĉu vi uzas ilin angle?

cFlat7 (Å vise profilen) 2012 5 18 13:15:20

sudanglo:Walking back from the dining car, I caught site of him being frogmarched along the corridor, yelling to me as he disappeared at the end to inform the British Embassy when I reached the Capital.
Frog-marched: I had to look that up: frog march

Esperante?: ranmarŝigi

Donniedillon (Å vise profilen) 2012 5 19 17:42:19

J_Marc:Memento mori - Memoru ke ankaŭ vi mortos
Or perhaps "Memoru vian mortecon"?

J_Marc (Å vise profilen) 2012 5 20 00:42:44

sudanglo:Malplaĉulo hardly seems to do person non grata justice. Even persono ne-bonvena seems a little too mild.
when I looked up the dictinary for the exact meaning of that Latin phrase, it gave the translation as 'a person not pleasing'. But I agree with you that its use nowadays is a lot stronger than that translation. It's a bit of a euphenism, using classy-sounding Latin to mean something that can be sinister.

I've also heard the English word 'undesirable' be used as a noun in a similar sense. 'Nedezirindulo', ĉu?

J_Marc (Å vise profilen) 2012 5 20 00:44:39

Hyperboreus:
J_Marc:Cassus belli - Milito-incito
Casus belli. "cassus" volas diri "malplena", "dezerta".
My very own Monty Python moment! (I am sure that video's been linked to a few times here!)

Hyperboreus (Å vise profilen) 2012 5 20 02:44:22

Forigite

sudanglo (Å vise profilen) 2012 5 20 08:54:26

Cflat, the modern usage of frog march is just to be dragged off against your will by persons in authority. I'm not sure that the hind legs of the victim have to be splayed out in the manner of a frog. Here is a quote from a NY Times article

The author of the Harry Potter series, J. K. Rowling, who used the colorful verb in one of her books for children, gave her understanding of the compound to a questioner on the 'Today' show: 'That's when two people stand [on] either side of a third person and they force them to walk along. It's like you're under arrest.'

Here's the link for the full article.

For an Esperanto translation, one might just say fortreni or pelmarŝigi.

sudanglo (Å vise profilen) 2012 5 20 08:58:10

Fajrokapo, Esperanto already has apriora, and aposteriora

fajrkapo (Å vise profilen) 2012 5 20 09:41:30

sudanglo:Fajrokapo, Esperanto already has apriora, and aposteriora
ok, dankon, i didnt know. I looked in the dictionary in: a prio... separately, and i didnt find somethig

bartlett22183 (Å vise profilen) 2012 5 20 18:33:20

fajrkapo:A priori: antaŭe
A posteriori: poste

bkm

Do you use them in english?
Ĉu vi uzas ilin angle?
Yes, we have them in English, although mostly in technical or learned writing, in which they do not quite have the meanings you gave them. sudanglo has answered well.

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