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Some Esperanto Questions

kelle poolt SPX, 7. august 2012

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SPX (Näita profiili) 7. august 2012 14:25.22

sudanglo:My God! Is this supposed to be English?
LOL.

I've noticed that both in the Kurso and in the book I'm going through that there are some very awkward sentences. I just remember, though, that it's a teaching tool and they're just trying to come up with something that drills the vocab/concepts that are discussed in the lesson.

sudanglo (Näita profiili) 7. august 2012 18:39.54

But how can you judge if any translation is good if you can't understand the original?

The way to do this, if you want to practise certain structure in Esperanto, is to first choose a natural sentence in Esperanto and then render it naturally in English - not to ape the syntactic structure of the original, so, as it were, providing the answer in the exercise. Do that and it is really only a vocabulary exercise.

What is being practised here? La V-o W-e X-as la Y-an Z-on?

I suggest then La aŭtoro malbone regas la anglan lingvon.

Hyperboreus (Näita profiili) 7. august 2012 20:34.59

Forigite

Hyperboreus (Näita profiili) 7. august 2012 20:45.03

Forigite

creedelambard (Näita profiili) 8. august 2012 20:10.54

sudanglo:
8. The store badly makes the small bread.
My God! Is this supposed to be English?
Why couldn't they have said "The boutique botches the baguettes"? ridulo.gif

marcuscf (Näita profiili) 9. august 2012 9:06.11

SPX:
"Tri" doesn't get it but "tria" does. And "miliono" as a noun when "mil" is not?

Seems kind of arbitrary.
It's not that hard. If it ends with an A or O (*) you can add N. Otherwise you don't add the N (it would be very awkward to pronounce miln, kvarn, etc.).

(*) or U, as in “kiu(n)”, “tiu(n)”, “neniu(n)”, but not “unu”. Despite the difference, it is fairly easy to remember this.

SPX (Näita profiili) 10. august 2012 0:20.57

marcuscf:
It's not that hard. If it ends with an A or O (*) you can add N. Otherwise you don't add the N (it would be very awkward to pronounce miln, kvarn, etc.).

(*) or U, as in “kiu(n)”, “tiu(n)”, “neniu(n)”, but not “unu”. Despite the difference, it is fairly easy to remember this.
Cool, thanks. I will keep that in mind.

I still don't get why miliono is a noun, though. I mean, if I say "one thousand dollars" or "one million dollars," the number shouldn't be a noun in one case but not in the other.

erinja (Näita profiili) 10. august 2012 0:31.58

I think the miliono issue is a carry-over from some other languages that treat millions and billions differently.

You should note that it's possible to add -o to the other numbers, though, and treat them like nouns.

You see this usage frequently in situations like "Dekoj/centoj da vizitantoj venas al mia urbo" (Tens/Hundreds of visitors come to my city)

"dekoj" ends up getting used in situations where we'd say "dozens" in English.

SPX (Näita profiili) 10. august 2012 0:56.10

Interesting. That makes at least a little more sense.

SPX (Näita profiili) 10. august 2012 0:59.44

I have some more exercises here if anyone would be willing to look over them. . .

These are just a direct translation from English to Esperanto:

1. Does your father collect postage stamps?
Ĉu via patro kolektas poŝtmarkon?

2. Did the son forget the milk?
Ĉu la filo forgesis la lakton?

3. Are the children eating sandwiches?
Ĉu la infanoj manĝas sandviĉojn?

4. Does a healthy boy drink milk?
Ĉu sana knabo trinkas lakton?

5. Will the father wash the small cups?
Ĉu la patro lavos la malgrandajn tasojn?

6. Did the new (female) teacher forget the book?
Ĉu la instruistino forgesis la libron?

7. Do they sell tea and coffee?
Ĉu ili vendas teon kaj kafon?

8. Does the sick daughter write badly?
Ĉu la malsana filino skribas malbone?

9. Are they good friends?
Ĉu ili estas bonaj amikoj?

10. Does your brother sell books and newspapers?
Ĉu via frato vendas librojn kaj ĵurnalojn?

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