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Translation: "dumb down"

by Miland, July 5, 2015

Messages: 21

Language: English

sudanglo (User's profile) July 8, 2015, 10:35:34 AM

jefusan:Porstultuligi?
This goes a long way to capturing the meaning of dumbing down.

However, Altebrilas's post suggests another possibility - kretenigi.

By the way, what has happened to 'ifi'. Wasn't that in an earlier version of PIV for use when -ig -um or -iz don't quite hit the mark.

Which sounds better:

Kretenigo de la televido
Kretenizo de la televido
Kretenumo de la televido
Kretenifo de la televido

yyaann (User's profile) July 8, 2015, 10:51:00 AM

sudanglo:Which sounds better:

Kretenigo de la televido
Kretenizo de la televido
Kretenumo de la televido
Kretenifo de la televido
Definitely kretenigo as -ig- is the most widely understood and undebated suffix.

Tempodivalse (User's profile) July 8, 2015, 11:08:52 AM

By the way, what has happened to 'ifi'.
What is "ifi" ?? Does this have something to do with the English -ify or Italian -ificare?

I don't see why we normally need anything other than -ig. -iz might be helpful in technical contexts, sure. But -ifi? What does it do that's substantially different? This sounds like another Ido-esque suffix with no real additional value ...

Breto (User's profile) July 8, 2015, 5:51:17 PM

jefusan:Porstultuligi?
Oooh, I like that one. Reminds me of those "For Dummies" books.

sudanglo:By the way, what has happened to 'ifi'. Wasn't that in an earlier version of PIV for use when -ig -um or -iz don't quite hit the mark.
I'm not sure I've ever encountered "ifi" prior to your use of it in this thread. Then again, I'm not as well-read as most.

DuckFiasco (User's profile) July 8, 2015, 7:25:57 PM

jefusan:Porstultuligi?
This one made me smile ridulo.gif

erinja (User's profile) July 8, 2015, 7:36:59 PM

Never heard of "ifi" before now.

Kirilo81 (User's profile) July 8, 2015, 8:15:29 PM

ifi AFAIK is "fari ion -o", while igi is "fari ion -a" and izi "provizi ion per -o", but it never came into use, maybe it's from Ido?

Simon_Gauvain (User's profile) July 9, 2015, 1:12:29 PM

"A-level Mathematics has been dumbed down since I was at school."
A-nivela matematiko fariĝis stulte/ridinde simpla de post mia lernado.

Miland (User's profile) July 10, 2015, 7:38:55 PM

My thanks for all the suggestions. Personally I might favour Richard Hall's trofaciligi or Rolnik's trosimpligi for what is happening. One suggestion for its use might be Ekde kiam mi estis lernejano, oni trofaciligis la antaŭuniversitatan/abiturientan matematikan instruprogamon.

richardhall (User's profile) July 11, 2015, 8:50:08 PM

Miland:Personally I might favour Richard Hall's trofaciligi or Rolnik's trosimpligi for what is happening.
Thanks - you've no idea the smile that gave me!

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