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lagtendisto (Montri la profilon) 2016-januaro-15 11:21:57
nornen:Conlanging is a great hobby and you even learn quite a lot about actual languages. ... Do it! It can be great fun!David Peterson has some interesting vlogs.
Even if I don't understand most of his linguistic presentation it gives me very nice feeling how respectful most conlanger interact each other.
lagtendisto (Montri la profilon) 2016-januaro-15 11:39:07
Zvoc47:It's definitely a fun thing to do. I've been thinking about it since 2010.There also exists active Interslavic (Slovianski) conlang community which seems to be in competition with Esperanto-like Slovio.
Zvoc47 (Montri la profilon) 2016-aprilo-02 19:27:38
Do I really mustn't promote usage of it in real life? I mean, that language would help me and people alike me to talk more clearly because of how detailed with inflexions it is. However, as I'm busy with multimedia projects, I cannot work much on my language to create a completely new vocabulary and morphemes that don't conflict with each other, so I just think of basing it off of Esperanto which essencially has most of the things that I like about a language, but not all of them. This is why I have to involve Esperanto. If it's a big problem, I could just reject Esperanto vocabulary and morphemes and instead inject Croatian and English ones. So, is it a big problem? And would I still get away with it?
novatago (Montri la profilon) 2016-aprilo-02 20:31:58
Zvoc47:I insist, what you must not do is to annoy Esperanto speakers with it. But in the other hand, it seems to me that you just haven't think about what implies to promote it. I think you have seen that Esperanto is working, may be you know Klingon and Elvish have their speakers, and you think that the thing is just to show your project to the people. Well, it's not like that. Not at all. Languages from fiction artworks had the huge support of the success of the work in which they was born. And Esperanto had linked a beautiful ideology linked to it that was promoted for a man who really knew to transmit his passion about this ideology to others BUT, think this, the language kind of ruined the economy of Zamenhof. And I mean, really think about it carefully, because I just giving you examples to make you understand that to promote a conlang is not just to wake up a morning and think “Well this morning I'm going to change the world, and in the afternoon I'll take a nap”. The problems linked to the promotion of such a thing aren't a joke. So, it's really worth it?
Do I really mustn't promote usage of it in real life? I mean, that language would help me and people alike me to talk more clearly because of how detailed with inflexions it is.
Yes, you maybe are thinking that nowadays we have internet, but that doesn't mean that the publicity of a project is going to be free or even cheap, easy and successful. But, if it's something for you and your friends, go for it.
Anyway, again: Don't bother Esperanto speakers with it AND don't cheat people making them to think that your language is like Esperanto to promote it.
Ĝis, Novatago.
Zvoc47 (Montri la profilon) 2016-aprilo-02 21:11:20
The main function of the game will be that the player creates their own character representing themselves in the game's world. This will lead to another OC (Own Character) fandom such as the already existing Yoshi-, Sonic-, Brony-, furry-, Kirby-, Pokemon-, etc. -fandoms. However, unlike those fandoms, I plan that mine has freedom of speech which means that people should have more freedom regarding copyright, fan art, character monetization, fan-made video-games, fan-made YTP's full of internet memes, nerdy references and parodies that make people happy by making them laugh. This also includes the conlang. People will like to speak the conlang. Just like Star Wars has its conlang and probably Lord of The Rings too, I'd like to promote mine too.
Where are the expenses? A team of my friends make the game, go to Kickstarter, give it to an indie developer who's already been publishing indie games of their own, use Taxamo for calculating and paying taxes where they're due, start a company, host a public forum/website for the fandom and that's it. The conlang is just one of the options. If someone wants to promote the conlang, they'll probably get people to buy my game and they'll be happy for having fun while I'll be happy because I'll can fly to America to meet those online friends!
I guess I should not say that it's based on Esperanto. But how am I going to explain if someone asks me "I've seen these suffixes before"? Shall I use a morpheme generator to create those from scratch?
Vestitor (Montri la profilon) 2016-aprilo-02 21:54:55
My personal opinion is that all this fantasy conlanging is utter balls and it's a reflection of how so many adults are out of touch with reality, but each to their own.
novatago (Montri la profilon) 2016-aprilo-02 22:18:50
Zvoc47:What's the problem of creating a better medium of speech where I can freely express myself?Ok, and here it comes one more time.
Ok, add it to the infinite list of “better than Esperanto” dead projects.Just with that sentence you lost my attention, sorry.
Ĝis, Novatago.
novatago (Montri la profilon) 2016-aprilo-02 22:32:51
Vestitor:Perhaps Novatago expresses the idea that it's just another factious offshoot adding to the diversion away from Esperanto. I don't think people within Esperanto - where there is enough to contend with as it is - want to hear about yet another Ido, no matter how harmless it is supposed to be.That's the idea. And also makes me feel so tired and it's so outrageous to see people that almost don't know anything about Esperanto and its history to come and say “hey this is better than Esperanto, just learn it, because I say so”. Yeah, sure, wait for me.
Ĝis, Novatago.
nornen (Montri la profilon) 2016-aprilo-03 06:05:24
Zvoc47:Update: As much as I've been developing, I've realized that my conlang is basically like Esperanto, but with gendered adjectives and nouns, extended conjugations of verbs, extra affixes and more addons. I came back to this topic because I remembered it.You do not need to ask for anyone's permission for doing so. It is your work and your mental offspring. Do with it as you see fit.
Do I really mustn't promote usage of it in real life? I mean, that language would help me and people alike me to talk more clearly because of how detailed with inflexions it is. However, as I'm busy with multimedia projects, I cannot work much on my language to create a completely new vocabulary and morphemes that don't conflict with each other, so I just think of basing it off of Esperanto which essencially has most of the things that I like about a language, but not all of them. This is why I have to involve Esperanto. If it's a big problem, I could just reject Esperanto vocabulary and morphemes and instead inject Croatian and English ones. So, is it a big problem? And would I still get away with it?
Zvoc47:And would I still get away with it?Get away with what? And more importantly: get away from whom?
Just do it. I am positive that the Esperanto SWAT unit will not raid your house the moment you publish your ideas.
Vestitor (Montri la profilon) 2016-aprilo-03 08:57:41
nornen:Indeed, under the protection of the 'so-open-minded-its-brain-fell-out' unit, everyone is free to do anything.
Get away with what? And more importantly: get away from whom?
Just do it. I am positive that the Esperanto SWAT unit will not raid your house the moment you publish your ideas.