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TWO Scrambled Eggs

viết bởi jkph00, Ngày 14 tháng 3 năm 2016

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jkph00 (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 21:14:36 Ngày 14 tháng 3 năm 2016

Tell me, friends, how would I specify that I wish two eggs scrambled for breakfast? Would I perhaps say a) Mi ŝatus du kirlitajn ovojn or 2) Mi ŝatus du da kirlovaĵo? Or even 3) Mi ŝatus du kirlovaĵojn? Or 4) None of the above. okulumo.gif

Thanks for your help.

Vestitor (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 22:27:25 Ngày 14 tháng 3 năm 2016

I'll have a punt:

Mi ŝatus du kirlovaĵojn.

Or does that mean two portions of scrambled eggs?!

Better to ask for scrambled eggs then say you want it from two eggs.

jkph00 (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 00:13:49 Ngày 15 tháng 3 năm 2016

Vestitor:I'll have a punt:

Mi ŝatus du kirlovaĵojn.

Or does that mean two portions of scrambled eggs?!

Better to ask for scrambled eggs then say you want it from two eggs.
I had the same thought about that meaning. Your final suggestion is certainly a pragmatic and workable one if there is no direct way to express it. Thanks for the suggestion!

sergejm (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 05:49:43 Ngày 15 tháng 3 năm 2016

Note: 'ŝati' means not 'like' but 'esteem' - see Fundamento.
'like' is 'plaĉas'. So:
Al mi plaĉus kirlovaĵo el du ovoj/duova kirlovaĵo.

Miland (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 09:10:43 Ngày 15 tháng 3 năm 2016

jkph00:Would I perhaps say a) Mi ŝatus du kirlitajn ovojn or 2) Mi ŝatus du da kirlovaĵo? Or even 3) Mi ŝatus du kirlovaĵojn? Or 4) None of the above. okulumo.gif.
In my view, (a) should do fine.

Vestitor (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 11:45:18 Ngày 15 tháng 3 năm 2016

sergejm:Note: 'ŝati' means not 'like' but 'esteem' - see Fundamento.
'like' is 'plaĉas'. So:
Al mi plaĉus kirlovaĵo el du ovoj/duova kirlovaĵo.
Correct, but except for utter purists ŝatus is now commonly used to mean 'would like'.

jkph00 (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 21:59:08 Ngày 15 tháng 3 năm 2016

Vestitor:
sergejm:Note: 'ŝati' means not 'like' but 'esteem' - see Fundamento.
'like' is 'plaĉas'. So:
Al mi plaĉus kirlovaĵo el du ovoj/duova kirlovaĵo.
Correct, but except for utter purists ŝatus is now commonly used to mean 'would like'.
I'm especially delighted by duova kirlovaĵo. My warmest thanks to all!

sudanglo (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 11:36:38 Ngày 16 tháng 3 năm 2016

I want two scrambled eggs could in some contexts mean two separate orders of scrambled eggs - imagine a waiter calling orders through to the kitchen.

However, it would seem very pedantic to serve up two separate portions in a domestic environment, and in that case 'two scrambled eggs' is likely to be interpreted as a single portion of scrambled eggs made from two eggs.

The problem here is not so much the translation as the interpretation of 'two scrambled eggs' in different contexts.

One possibility for the translation (domestic situation) is:

Mi volas du ovojn kirlitaj(n).

Mi mem preferas miajn matenmanĝajn ovojn kirlitaj.

Alkanadi (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 14:21:47 Ngày 16 tháng 3 năm 2016

I have been thinking about this a lot.

Does this work?
Mi volas du ovojn, kiuj estas kirlitaj.

Kirilo81 (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 14:57:20 Ngày 16 tháng 3 năm 2016

Alkanadi:I have been thinking about this a lot.

Does this work?
Mi volas du ovojn, kiuj estas kirlitaj.
Yes, of course, but why so complicated? Would you say to your partner "I want two eggs, which are scrambled"?

In my opinion du kirlovaĵoj can only mean "two portions of scrambled eggs". If it were one portion from two eggs, the du actually would have to relate not to the whole compound, but only to a part of it (-ov-). I think it is a linguistic universal that something like this isn't allowed.

My formulation would be du kirlitajn ovojn or kirlovaĵon el du ovoj.

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