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"A's B" in esperanto

viết bởi apriliss, Ngày 07 tháng 7 năm 2016

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akueck (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 14:01:13 Ngày 14 tháng 7 năm 2016

apriliss:In English we can say something which belongs to something else by "A's B" instead of "B of A". Is the similar way of saying possible in Esperanto too?
In Esperanto, you have to use "de". However, you can vary the word order to make things clearer, example:

Jam forveturis la kolego de mia amiko, kiun mi renkontis en la butiko. {=> Mi renkontis mian amikon.}

Jam forveturis la de mia amiko kolego, kiun mi renkontis en la butiko. {=> Mi renkontis la kolegon de mia amiko.}

Matthieu (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 18:17:17 Ngày 14 tháng 7 năm 2016

akueck:
apriliss:In English we can say something which belongs to something else by "A's B" instead of "B of A". Is the similar way of saying possible in Esperanto too?
In Esperanto, you have to use "de". However, you can vary the word order to make things clearer, example:

Jam forveturis la kolego de mia amiko, kiun mi renkontis en la butiko. {=> Mi renkontis mian amikon.}

Jam forveturis la de mia amiko kolego, kiun mi renkontis en la butiko. {=> Mi renkontis la kolegon de mia amiko.}
I definitely wouldn't call la de mia amiko kolego "clearer". It's barely grammatically correct and if I heard this sentence my answer would be "What?"

nornen (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 19:34:41 Ngày 14 tháng 7 năm 2016

Mutusen:
akueck:Jam forveturis la de mia amiko kolego, kiun mi renkontis en la butiko. {=> Mi renkontis la kolegon de mia amiko.}
I definitely wouldn't call la de mia amiko kolego "clearer". It's barely grammatically correct and if I heard this sentence my answer would be "What?"
I especially don't understand how the "la" stranded in front of the "de" phrase. If any, shouldn't it be "de mia amiko la kolego"?

akueck (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 05:37:03 Ngày 15 tháng 7 năm 2016

nornen:
Mutusen:
akueck:Jam forveturis la de mia amiko kolego, kiun mi renkontis en la butiko. {=> Mi renkontis la kolegon de mia amiko.}
I definitely wouldn't call la de mia amiko kolego "clearer". It's barely grammatically correct and if I heard this sentence my answer would be "What?"
I especially don't understand how the "la" stranded in front of the "de" phrase. If any, shouldn't it be "de mia amiko la kolego"?
Analogously, Zamenhof worded e. g.: "Tre charme ghi lumis, la suno ravanta, en mia de vivo mateno ..." kaj: "... kiuj glitas libere sur la por aliaj tro malglata shelo de la vivo."

Please refer to the rule according to which such a word order is incorrect.

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