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Suffix "ino"

от Ploppsy32, 14 декабря 2019 г.

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Metsis (Показать профиль) 16 декабря 2019 г., 19:28:51

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sergejm (Показать профиль) 16 декабря 2019 г., 19:33:00

All roots before -isto are neutral
The root kurac- is a verb, it is no neutral, no male, no female at all. Roots before -isto rarely mean a person.

Of course, there are words ending -isto, which are not gender neutral, e.g. Kristo, but -isto isn't suffix here.
La kuracisto venis hieraŭ kaj ŝi diris tion
Ŝi can mean not the doctor, but another woman.
Similarly, if we use li, it can mean another man or the doctor, but in the last case we don't know do the doctor is male or female.

Ploppsy32 (Показать профиль) 16 декабря 2019 г., 19:41:05

Do any of you feel that having a pronoun for males that also functions as gender-neutral linguistically excludes women?

Ploppsy32 (Показать профиль) 16 декабря 2019 г., 20:22:57

Also is really very, extremely, exceedingly, greatly, truly, highly, hugely, decidedly, markedly, immensely, tremendously, remarkably, considerably, intensely, exceptionally, seriously, rather, uncommonly, substantially, quite IMPORTANT TO KNOW AND TO UNDERSTAND that in grammar the male gender is not necessarily linked to men or to male sex.

I disagree, why do you believe this?

Ploppsy32 (Показать профиль) 16 декабря 2019 г., 20:27:10

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Ploppsy32 (Показать профиль) 16 декабря 2019 г., 20:29:08

How do you all do that thing that makes the other person's message yellow?

sergejm (Показать профиль) 16 декабря 2019 г., 20:30:47

Yes, grammar the male gender ≠ male sex.
E.g. in old English "woman" had male gender.

sergejm (Показать профиль) 16 декабря 2019 г., 20:33:34

Ploppsy32:How do you all do that thing that makes the other person's message yellow?
Push "Reply" button at the right side of the message. Cut some text if you want, but in this case each [ quote ] must have pair [ /quote ]

novatago (Показать профиль) 16 декабря 2019 г., 21:15:43

Ploppsy32:Do any of you feel that having a pronoun for males that also functions as gender-neutral linguistically excludes women?
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That's the same smart as saying that women have the privilege of having a pronoun that only has a female gender meaning.

Please, stop this "all is sexist" shit.

Ĝis, Novatago (blogo / 7 + 1)

novatago (Показать профиль) 16 декабря 2019 г., 21:18:08

sergejm:
All roots before -isto are neutral
The root kurac- is a verb, it is no neutral, no male, no female at all. Roots before -isto rarely mean a person.

Of course, there are words ending -isto, which are not gender neutral, e.g. Kristo, but -isto isn't suffix here.
La kuracisto venis hieraŭ kaj ŝi diris tion
Ŝi can mean not the doctor, but another woman.
Similarly, if we use li, it can mean another man or the doctor, but in the last case we don't know do the doctor is male or female.
You are right, but, please: context of what I was explaining.

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