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Miland (Переглянути профіль) 26 лютого 2009 р. 11:33:24
"Life is a need-to-know operation."
tommjames (Переглянути профіль) 26 лютого 2009 р. 11:47:59
Miland (Переглянути профіль) 26 лютого 2009 р. 13:55:34
jchthys (Переглянути профіль) 26 лютого 2009 р. 15:21:32
By the way, does the word la need to be here? In English one doesn't use it, and it seems a little illogical to me.
tommjames (Переглянути профіль) 26 лютого 2009 р. 15:40:17
jchthys:Aŭ: La vivo estas operacio scienda.When linking the adjective scienda to operacio, the result of this is to say that one should know the operation. However I think the sense of "need-to-know operation" is that life is an operation within which one needs to know about other things, generally. I don't think it's saying that one should know the operation itself.
Parenteze, ĉu la vorto "la" devas aperi ĉi tie? Angle oni ne uzas ĝin;When using the word vivo there is a distinction to be made between "a life", and life in general. Vivo by itself would I beleive be most commonly interpreted as "a life", and so we use "la" to refer to life as a category of thing rather than an instance.
Miland (Переглянути профіль) 26 лютого 2009 р. 15:43:29
'Need-to-know-operation' is an expression from fields like espionage, in which secret agents are only given information that they need to know in order to carry out their mission.
tommjames (Переглянути профіль) 26 лютого 2009 р. 15:50:07
Miland:'Need-to-know-operation' is an expression from fields like espionage, in which secret agents are only given information that they need to know in order to carry out their mission.Seems like I misinterpreted the meaning too
In this case I might change my original sci-bezona to something like sci-laŭ-bezona to show that one only receives knowledge according to need.
jchthys (Переглянути профіль) 26 лютого 2009 р. 16:38:09
Parenteze, ĉu la vorto "la" devas aperi ĉi tie? Angle oni ne uzas ĝin;When using the word vivo there is a distinction to be made between "a life", and life in general. Vivo by itself would I beleive be most commonly interpreted as "a life", and so we use "la" to refer to life as a category of thing rather than an instance.[/quote]Thank you for that clarification.
jchthys (Переглянути профіль) 26 лютого 2009 р. 16:41:35
Miland:Please provide an English translation with Esperanto texts.Sorry, I must have thought this was one of the Esperanto forums. I translated by message.
Miland:'Need-to-know-operation' is an expression from fields like espionage, in which secret agents are only given information that they need to know in order to carry out their mission.I didn't know that. I wouldn't know how to translate that.
Miland (Переглянути профіль) 26 лютого 2009 р. 18:58:42
tommjames: I might change my original sci-bezona to something like sci-laŭ-bezona ..scivolema means inquisitive, so that scivolo is the wish to know, so by analogy scibezono is the need to know. That's why I thought that scibezona was a very neat solution. We wouldn't want the translation to get too long anyway; that's the real difficulty.