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Mojosa

de ceigered, 2009-septembro-17

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ceigered (Montri la profilon) 2009-septembro-17 14:28:16

Just curious, where did this word come from and is it used widely? Because I've been looking for a word for 'cool' for a while now in EO and it appeared in the EO - English vortaro. And also if it's widespread I might add it to the English - EO vortaro too.

tommjames (Montri la profilon) 2009-septembro-17 14:41:20

You can read about mojosa and its history here.

Everyone I speak to in my own little circle knows this word well. Whether it's more widespread in Esperantujo I don't know. I know some people don't like it because they feel it is unnecessary, an attempt to make one language like another one etc etc. Personally I prefer to use bona/e and other similar words where I would have said cool in English, although I like to use mojosa in some limited cases.. when I know I'm speaking to somebody who is familiar with the word.. and who won't get angry if I use it ridulo.gif (yes, it happens)

Oŝo-Jabe (Montri la profilon) 2009-septembro-17 15:32:37

There's also "malaĉa" and "bonuma."

Ironchef (Montri la profilon) 2009-septembro-17 15:36:43

Oŝo-Jabe:There's also "malaĉa" and "bonuma."
I overheard someone say "Man, that's so cool it's hot!" and my head started to spin around.

When I was a teenager, "Radical!" (or "Rad!") was the buzzword meaning much the same thing:

I wonder if I said "Radikala muziko!", anyone would even imply the tone I'm intending? ridulo.gif

I just saw "jakobeno" in the vortaro meaning "extreme radical" but doesn't that really mean "jacket blessing"??

ceigered (Montri la profilon) 2009-septembro-17 15:39:48

Cheers yall lango.gif

So basically Mojoso is short for 'modern youth style', a bit like how 'mofo' means something in English but has been shortened down to look completely different (although, unlike mojosa, also adopting a new meaning of 'fellow' as opposed to its ruder original form)?

ceigered (Montri la profilon) 2009-septembro-17 15:56:52

Ironchef:I just saw "jakobeno" in the vortaro meaning "extreme radical" but doesn't that really mean "jacket blessing"??
Maybe it's one of those things were you need to experience it to know what it's on about. I suggest finding a priest with a nice jacket lango.gif

LyzTyphone (Montri la profilon) 2009-septembro-18 09:25:38

Ironchef:I just saw "jakobeno" in the vortaro meaning "extreme radical" but doesn't that really mean "jacket blessing"??
Though I am no French myself, I rather think that word is from Jacobin Party during the Revolution. So most likely you don't want to use it in this sense.

horsto (Montri la profilon) 2009-septembro-18 11:00:18

I don't like this word at all. It was built from:
moderneco, juneco kaj stileco (laŭ vikipedio)
.
First of all, what is "stileco", I don't find that in my dictionaries.
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But more important, does "cool" really mean young, modern and, I don't know, perhaps stylish?

ceigered (Montri la profilon) 2009-septembro-18 11:28:39

horsto:I don't like this word at all. It was built from:
moderneco, juneco kaj stileco (laŭ vikipedio)
.
First of all, what is "stileco", I don't find that in my dictionaries.
I like it but it seems a bit out of place and as if it came from a pacific or a language like malaysian or tagolog

Stilo = style.

From lernu's eo-eo vortaro:
persona maniero esprimi siajn pensojn (en parolado, skribado, pentrado,...); la karakterizaĵoj de tiu maniero, retroveblaj en artverko.

(Personal manner to express one's thoughts, in speech, writing, painting etc); the characteristics of this manner, able to be found again in artwork.)

Personally I would have used modo rather than stilo, but maybe people didn't like 'mojoma' lango.gif
But more important, does "cool" really mean young, modern and, I don't know, perhaps stylish?
Apparently, but like most English slang it hasn't got a very rigid meaning.

(on a side note, anyone feel like a pirate when saying 'artverko'? alot of 'r's for one word!)

horsto (Montri la profilon) 2009-septembro-18 12:09:08

ceigered:
Stilo = style.
From lernu's eo-eo vortaro:
persona maniero esprimi siajn pensojn (en parolado, skribado, pentrado,...); la karakterizaĵoj de tiu maniero, retroveblaj en artverko.
Thank you for the answer, I of course know "stilo", but what is "stileco"?
ceigered:
I like it but it seems a bit out of place and as if it came from a pacific or a language like malaysian or tagolog
It's simply the three initial letters:
Mo-Jo-So
vikipedio:
Kritikantoj atentigas ke kvankam la vorto "cool" ja estas moderna kaj junstila, ĝi ne signifas tion. Al tiu kritiko oni povas respondi, ke la signifo de "mojosa" ne estis difinita per la vortoj "moderna" aŭ "junstila", sed per la angla (kaj alilingva) vorto "cool". Tial "mojosa" ja samsignifas al "cool", kaj ne al "modernjunstila".
I just read this. That's really mojosa, ĉu ne?
Allthough the words are modern and young stylish, it doesn't mean that, it just means "cool". demando.gif

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