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How to say "soft drink"

de angel32163, 3 de setembro de 2010

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Idioma: English

angel32163 (Mostrar o perfil) 3 de setembro de 2010 21:32:46

Been having trouble finding this anywhere. How do you say "soft drink" as in a carbonated beverage (ie. Pepsi, Coca-Cola, etc.) in E-O?

Frankouche (Mostrar o perfil) 3 de setembro de 2010 21:40:50

Senalkohola biero ? rideto.gif

I see "sodakvo" for soda. Maybe, "gasakvo" ankaŭ taŭgus.

Miland (Mostrar o perfil) 3 de setembro de 2010 21:46:14

Benson has sodaĵo and karbonata trinkaĵo.

sudanglo (Mostrar o perfil) 3 de setembro de 2010 22:52:40

You wouldn't want to drink a sodaĵo according to PIV - could contain NaOH (nasty)

But PIV allows karbonato to cover a solution of CO2 in water.

I suppose the essential idea behind 'soft drink' is that it is senalkohola and also sweet. It may be fizzy or not.

I not sure that a low-alcohol beer or wine would be a soft drink.

I wonder if you could say 'dolĉaj trinkaĵoj' for soft drinks.

MikeDee (Mostrar o perfil) 3 de setembro de 2010 23:15:45

Wikipedia means Senalkoholaĵo
http://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senalkohola%C4%B5o

erinja (Mostrar o perfil) 3 de setembro de 2010 23:26:12

"Soft drink" can mean a nonalcoholic drink ("senalkohola trinkaĵo") or also a sweet fizzy drink (known as soda, pop, or Coke, depending on where you live).

I often call fizzy drinks "ŝaŭmtrinkaĵoj" (ŝaŭmvino = sparkling wine). "eferveska" is another word for fizzy, so you could call them "eferveskaj trinkaĵoj"

I usually call fizzy/sparkling water "akvo kun gaso" but "gasakvo" and "ŝaŭmakvo" are also correct.

Sonja Kisa has "gastrinkaĵo" for "soft drink" in her dictionary, and that sounds suitable to me.

angel32163 (Mostrar o perfil) 4 de setembro de 2010 00:06:07

Thanks, everyone. Seems there are as many ways to say "soft drink" in E-O as there are in English.
The sweet, non-alcoholic carbonated beverage was what I was after. (pop, soda, or Coke), so karbonata trinkaĵo or gastrinkaĵo would probably be closest.

Miland (Mostrar o perfil) 4 de setembro de 2010 00:21:16

sudanglo:You wouldn't want to drink a sodaĵo according to PIV - could contain NaOH (nasty).
That's true about the PIV, but Butler's dictionary (p 26 under "Akvo") also has "sodo" for aerated water (in quotes, indicating perhaps a slang usage). The American slang "soda" could be adapted into a neologismo here IMO.

erinja (Mostrar o perfil) 4 de setembro de 2010 00:31:00

I've always liked the British term "fizzy drink" for its relative lack of ambiguity (so long as we all understand we're not talking about fizzy beer and wine). That's perhaps why I like "ŝaŭmtrinkaĵo"

Since there are so many unambiguous ways to talk about fizzy drinks in Esperanto, I hate to go for a neologism like "sodo". Neologisms have their place but I think it's unnecessary here, since there are a wealth of "native" Esperanto words to choose from.

ceigered (Mostrar o perfil) 4 de setembro de 2010 04:00:56

And if Esperanto fails to bring an unambiguous term to the table, there's always the international language of fast food:

"Ah, mi volas unu Coca Cola kaj du Big Mac-oj bv."

Since things like coca-cola and big macs are literally the same in just about every language:
Coca cola - big mac
코카콜라 - 빅맥 (Koka kolla - big maeg)
コカ・コーラ - ビッグマック (Koka koura - biggu makku)
Кока Кола - Биг Мак (Koka Kola - Big Mak)
(and even in languages that half those companies would barely even care about)

So if you can't find a word, look for the most popular and closest brand name possible, e.g. you had lemonade by the AUeng definition, then say "sprite" (or "Sprajto" okulumo.gif) etc. "Sprajto" might not help in a Chinese context though looking at these cans which say "雪碧" which seems to translate to "snow green" or "ŝŭebi" rido.gif

And literally translating Carbonated Beverage seems like an option too.

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