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Astronomiko? Lingvistio?

af ASCarroll, 29. apr. 2014

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ASCarroll (Vise profilen) 29. apr. 2014 01.10.34

I'm still working my way through http://donh.best.vwh.net/Esperanto/affixes.html and found the suffix -ik- for forming the names of sciences like lingvistiko. But the one above that says that -i- does the same thing, as with astronomio. That just seems... arbitrary. How do you know which to use for each case? :S

glaciurso (Vise profilen) 29. apr. 2014 06.48.47

These are unofficial and/or pseudo suffixes. PMEG says that treating e.g. -ik as a real suffix would change the meaning of many words like muziko, etc.
I think the names of many sciences are international enough to easily find their Esperanto counterparts. Unfortunately -ik or -i cannot be used systematically for all such words.

Kirilo81 (Vise profilen) 29. apr. 2014 09.01.21

Neither -ik- nor -i- nor -logi- are suffixes in Esperanto, but in the source languages. Calling them "suffixes" is a bit misleading (and surely meant to etymologize the concerning word), in Esperanto they're part of the root.

Bruso (Vise profilen) 29. apr. 2014 09.37.31

glaciurso:PMEG says that treating e.g. -ik as a real suffix would change the meaning of many words like muziko, etc.
But Esperanto is full of words that have "false" suffixes. My favorite is "okulo". Is that an "eight-person"? ridulo.gif

bryku (Vise profilen) 29. apr. 2014 09.49.43

glaciurso:These are unofficial and/or pseudo suffixes. PMEG says that treating e.g. -ik as a real suffix would change the meaning of many words like muziko, etc.
I think the names of many sciences are international enough to easily find their Esperanto counterparts. Unfortunately -ik or -i cannot be used systematically for all such words.
I think you mistake esperanto with ido. There are no such rules:

forfikulo
medicino
listo
eraro

glaciurso (Vise profilen) 29. apr. 2014 09.52.57

Bruso:
But Esperanto is full of words that have "false" suffixes. My favorite is "okulo". Is that an "eight-person"? ridulo.gif
You're right, good example ridulo.gif Could okulo be someone wearing the No. 8 jersey in a football team? ridulo.gif

sudanglo (Vise profilen) 29. apr. 2014 11.05.58

Yes, I am often confused between polemiko (disputatious argument) and pol-em-iko (the academic study of a favourable disposition towards the inhabitants of Poland).

bryku (Vise profilen) 29. apr. 2014 11.32.05

sudanglo:Yes, I am often confused between polemiko (disputatious argument) and pol-em-iko (the academic study of a favourable disposition towards the inhabitants of Poland).
And I am often confused with esperanto = es-per-anto (someone who transfers ES to the others, what this ES might be, it puzzles me)

Bruso (Vise profilen) 29. apr. 2014 12.09.18

sudanglo:Yes, I am often confused between polemiko (disputatious argument) and pol-em-iko (the academic study of a favourable disposition towards the inhabitants of Poland).
And is etaĝo a small age? Actually, someone once wrote a poem or something using wordplay on Esperanto words ending in -aĝo. I'll have to dig it up unless someone has it at hand.

EDIT:

I found it here. Page 4 of the PDF (or page 148 of the journal)

Esperanto Humor

Eltwish (Vise profilen) 8. maj 2014 22.58.40

Wow. I'd never seen the word forfikulo.
That... is one doozy of an unfortunately formed word. I guess it's good that it's the word for something I'd prefer stays far away from me, and not, like, a diplomat or a delicious snack.

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