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Astronomiko? Lingvistio?

от ASCarroll, 29 апреля 2014 г.

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ASCarroll (Показать профиль) 29 апреля 2014 г., 1:10:34

I'm still working my way through http://donh.best.vwh.net/Esperanto/affixes.html and found the suffix -ik- for forming the names of sciences like lingvistiko. But the one above that says that -i- does the same thing, as with astronomio. That just seems... arbitrary. How do you know which to use for each case? :S

glaciurso (Показать профиль) 29 апреля 2014 г., 6:48:47

These are unofficial and/or pseudo suffixes. PMEG says that treating e.g. -ik as a real suffix would change the meaning of many words like muziko, etc.
I think the names of many sciences are international enough to easily find their Esperanto counterparts. Unfortunately -ik or -i cannot be used systematically for all such words.

Kirilo81 (Показать профиль) 29 апреля 2014 г., 9:01:21

Neither -ik- nor -i- nor -logi- are suffixes in Esperanto, but in the source languages. Calling them "suffixes" is a bit misleading (and surely meant to etymologize the concerning word), in Esperanto they're part of the root.

Bruso (Показать профиль) 29 апреля 2014 г., 9:37:31

glaciurso:PMEG says that treating e.g. -ik as a real suffix would change the meaning of many words like muziko, etc.
But Esperanto is full of words that have "false" suffixes. My favorite is "okulo". Is that an "eight-person"? ridulo.gif

bryku (Показать профиль) 29 апреля 2014 г., 9:49:43

glaciurso:These are unofficial and/or pseudo suffixes. PMEG says that treating e.g. -ik as a real suffix would change the meaning of many words like muziko, etc.
I think the names of many sciences are international enough to easily find their Esperanto counterparts. Unfortunately -ik or -i cannot be used systematically for all such words.
I think you mistake esperanto with ido. There are no such rules:

forfikulo
medicino
listo
eraro

glaciurso (Показать профиль) 29 апреля 2014 г., 9:52:57

Bruso:
But Esperanto is full of words that have "false" suffixes. My favorite is "okulo". Is that an "eight-person"? ridulo.gif
You're right, good example ridulo.gif Could okulo be someone wearing the No. 8 jersey in a football team? ridulo.gif

sudanglo (Показать профиль) 29 апреля 2014 г., 11:05:58

Yes, I am often confused between polemiko (disputatious argument) and pol-em-iko (the academic study of a favourable disposition towards the inhabitants of Poland).

bryku (Показать профиль) 29 апреля 2014 г., 11:32:05

sudanglo:Yes, I am often confused between polemiko (disputatious argument) and pol-em-iko (the academic study of a favourable disposition towards the inhabitants of Poland).
And I am often confused with esperanto = es-per-anto (someone who transfers ES to the others, what this ES might be, it puzzles me)

Bruso (Показать профиль) 29 апреля 2014 г., 12:09:18

sudanglo:Yes, I am often confused between polemiko (disputatious argument) and pol-em-iko (the academic study of a favourable disposition towards the inhabitants of Poland).
And is etaĝo a small age? Actually, someone once wrote a poem or something using wordplay on Esperanto words ending in -aĝo. I'll have to dig it up unless someone has it at hand.

EDIT:

I found it here. Page 4 of the PDF (or page 148 of the journal)

Esperanto Humor

Eltwish (Показать профиль) 8 мая 2014 г., 22:58:40

Wow. I'd never seen the word forfikulo.
That... is one doozy of an unfortunately formed word. I guess it's good that it's the word for something I'd prefer stays far away from me, and not, like, a diplomat or a delicious snack.

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