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Astronomiko? Lingvistio?

ASCarroll :lta, 29. huhtikuuta 2014

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Kieli: English

ASCarroll (Näytä profiilli) 29. huhtikuuta 2014 1.10.34

I'm still working my way through http://donh.best.vwh.net/Esperanto/affixes.html and found the suffix -ik- for forming the names of sciences like lingvistiko. But the one above that says that -i- does the same thing, as with astronomio. That just seems... arbitrary. How do you know which to use for each case? :S

glaciurso (Näytä profiilli) 29. huhtikuuta 2014 6.48.47

These are unofficial and/or pseudo suffixes. PMEG says that treating e.g. -ik as a real suffix would change the meaning of many words like muziko, etc.
I think the names of many sciences are international enough to easily find their Esperanto counterparts. Unfortunately -ik or -i cannot be used systematically for all such words.

Kirilo81 (Näytä profiilli) 29. huhtikuuta 2014 9.01.21

Neither -ik- nor -i- nor -logi- are suffixes in Esperanto, but in the source languages. Calling them "suffixes" is a bit misleading (and surely meant to etymologize the concerning word), in Esperanto they're part of the root.

Bruso (Näytä profiilli) 29. huhtikuuta 2014 9.37.31

glaciurso:PMEG says that treating e.g. -ik as a real suffix would change the meaning of many words like muziko, etc.
But Esperanto is full of words that have "false" suffixes. My favorite is "okulo". Is that an "eight-person"? ridulo.gif

bryku (Näytä profiilli) 29. huhtikuuta 2014 9.49.43

glaciurso:These are unofficial and/or pseudo suffixes. PMEG says that treating e.g. -ik as a real suffix would change the meaning of many words like muziko, etc.
I think the names of many sciences are international enough to easily find their Esperanto counterparts. Unfortunately -ik or -i cannot be used systematically for all such words.
I think you mistake esperanto with ido. There are no such rules:

forfikulo
medicino
listo
eraro

glaciurso (Näytä profiilli) 29. huhtikuuta 2014 9.52.57

Bruso:
But Esperanto is full of words that have "false" suffixes. My favorite is "okulo". Is that an "eight-person"? ridulo.gif
You're right, good example ridulo.gif Could okulo be someone wearing the No. 8 jersey in a football team? ridulo.gif

sudanglo (Näytä profiilli) 29. huhtikuuta 2014 11.05.58

Yes, I am often confused between polemiko (disputatious argument) and pol-em-iko (the academic study of a favourable disposition towards the inhabitants of Poland).

bryku (Näytä profiilli) 29. huhtikuuta 2014 11.32.05

sudanglo:Yes, I am often confused between polemiko (disputatious argument) and pol-em-iko (the academic study of a favourable disposition towards the inhabitants of Poland).
And I am often confused with esperanto = es-per-anto (someone who transfers ES to the others, what this ES might be, it puzzles me)

Bruso (Näytä profiilli) 29. huhtikuuta 2014 12.09.18

sudanglo:Yes, I am often confused between polemiko (disputatious argument) and pol-em-iko (the academic study of a favourable disposition towards the inhabitants of Poland).
And is etaĝo a small age? Actually, someone once wrote a poem or something using wordplay on Esperanto words ending in -aĝo. I'll have to dig it up unless someone has it at hand.

EDIT:

I found it here. Page 4 of the PDF (or page 148 of the journal)

Esperanto Humor

Eltwish (Näytä profiilli) 8. toukokuuta 2014 22.58.40

Wow. I'd never seen the word forfikulo.
That... is one doozy of an unfortunately formed word. I guess it's good that it's the word for something I'd prefer stays far away from me, and not, like, a diplomat or a delicious snack.

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