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rann (프로필 보기) 2016년 1월 30일 오전 5:40:55
One can make "kial" into a noun and make "kialo" meaning "reason". If one can do that for "kial", why not other "ki-" correlatives? "kiamo" for time, "kielo" for a manner. Or am I viewing the construction completely wrong?
Also I know Zamenhoff also used "tialo" for "reason", does mean anything different from "kialo"?
Also I know Zamenhoff also used "tialo" for "reason", does mean anything different from "kialo"?
opalo (프로필 보기) 2016년 1월 30일 오전 10:26:20
Yes. you can do that. You will sometimes encounter, in English, expressions like "the where and the when of it", and in Esperanto this could be translated as la kieo kaj la kiamo de la afero. This vividly expresses the idea that both are urgently in question. Normally though it's easier just to say loko kaj tempo.
Kialo is the only one which is used often, perhaps because people hesitate to use kaŭzo for motivo. Early Esperantists sometimes used tialo. I feel that the word tiala implies that the explanation has already been given, e.g. Li akiris novan hundidon kaj tialajn devojn.
Kialo is the only one which is used often, perhaps because people hesitate to use kaŭzo for motivo. Early Esperantists sometimes used tialo. I feel that the word tiala implies that the explanation has already been given, e.g. Li akiris novan hundidon kaj tialajn devojn.
rann (프로필 보기) 2016년 1월 30일 오후 2:45:39
opalo:Yes. you can do that. You will sometimes encounter, in English, expressions like "the where and the when of it", and in Esperanto this could be translated as la kieo kaj la kiamo de la afero. This vividly expresses the idea that both are urgently in question. Normally though it's easier just to say loko kaj tempo.Does "kaŭzo" and "kialo" mean the exact same thing?
Kialo is the only one which is used often, perhaps because people hesitate to use kaŭzo for motivo. Early Esperantists sometimes used tialo. I feel that the word tiala implies that the explanation has already been given, e.g. Li akiris novan hundidon kaj tialajn devojn.
Also thanks, for your imputs, opalo and Fenris
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