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Electricity pylon anyone?

viết bởi celldee, Ngày 24 tháng 2 năm 2009

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ceigered (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 06:39:04 Ngày 25 tháng 2 năm 2009

Elektromastoj, so they're stobie poles, right? (are they actually called stobie poles at all outside South Australia? And do they look like this?)

celldee (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 08:36:31 Ngày 25 tháng 2 năm 2009

ceigered:Elektromastoj, so they're stobie poles, right? (are they actually called stobie poles at all outside South Australia? And do they look like this?)
What I had in mind was something more like this engineering masterpiece. Your "stobie pole" is what we call a "telegraph pole" in the UK (at least that's what I call it), and is something that you would see in the streets.

Electricity pylons are found much less often in densely populated areas, but they have been associated with health problems. Not sure whether there's hard science to back that association up though. Here's a brief
article about it.

jan aleksan (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 10:23:32 Ngày 25 tháng 2 năm 2009

henma:
I was about to ask the same thing... "What's a pylon?" I only know Cylons rido.gif

Daniel.
Cylon esperante = panrostilo lango.gif

celldee (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 13:14:09 Ngày 25 tháng 2 năm 2009

I decided to ask John Wells about this. He kindly informed me that the information I was seeking is in his concise dictionary and the PIV.
Pylon = (latis)masto (kaj same en PIV). Telegraph pole = telegraffosto (kaj vidu en PIV la priskribon de "aera telegrafo").
I think it's about time that I invested in a better quality dictionary. rideto.gif

EL_NEBULOSO (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 15:28:26 Ngày 25 tháng 2 năm 2009

Hi,

it seems that in this case Zamenhof took all 3 words from German (or at least Germanic languages, I don't know whether they are exclusively used in German).

fosto = Pfosten (the p before an f is usually omitted in Esperanto)

masto = Mast(en)

stabo = Stab

So by learning Esperanto you also learn a lot of vocabulary for German (and many other languages) that's the extra bonus. rideto.gif sal.gif

Gerald

Miland (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 19:26:55 Ngày 25 tháng 2 năm 2009

Pilono seems to me to be the simplest solution. It's in PIV 2005 as well as Butler (and Benson), and means both a support for high-voltage electrical cables and the entrance to an ancient Egyptian temple. Wells only gives the latter, but since few of us use ancient Egyptian temples, there's not much risk of confusion. However you could use one of the suggested compound words if you feel that it's easier for the listener.

Frankouche (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 19:43:32 Ngày 25 tháng 2 năm 2009

What horrible, an Egyptian electrical pylon okulumo.gif

I read that "Pylon" comes from Greek "πυλών" and means "great door", "portal". So "Pilono" would not refer to Electrical pylon. Let's try to find a better word.

Rogir (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 19:44:43 Ngày 25 tháng 2 năm 2009

I disagree with using pilono in this case, or really in any case. Why use a new root when elektromasto covers the meaning?

Miland (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 19:52:07 Ngày 25 tháng 2 năm 2009

Frankouche: "Pilono" would not refer to Electrical pylon..
Here's entry 2 from PIV 2005:
Granda subportilo, el latiso aŭ betono, de la elektraj konduktiloj de longdistancoj lineoj. I translate: "Big support, of metal lattice-work or concrete, of electrical cables of long-distance lines."

Rogir:Why use a new root when elektromasto covers the meaning?
It's simpler (and in PIV). But I did say that you could use a compound word (like elektromasto). Live and let live..

celldee (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 22:52:12 Ngày 25 tháng 2 năm 2009

Thank you all again for your suggestions. I can now translate "electricity pylon" in several different ways esperante, and can make myself understood in German as well as in Australian and American English. rido.gif

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