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EldanarLambetur (프로필 보기) 2012년 11월 29일 오후 10:52:59
Nevertheless, I've come across a word I like in The Fellowship of the Ring.
Here's the sentence from FotR:
"Do, se necesas trapeni marĉojn kaj dornojn, ni jam ekiru!"
Here's the line from the English version:
"Then if we are going to toil through bog and briar, let's go now!"
I wondered whether "trapeni" is also a good translation of "to cope" in a rough sense of "endeavouring through" something.
Would you agree?
sudanglo (프로필 보기) 2012년 11월 30일 오후 1:47:46
In Esperanto perhaps you might in some contexts be able to get across the idea of a successful outcome by prefixing with 'tra'.
John well registers manaĝi, but this is lacking in NPIV (only manaĝero). Perhaps though this is too specifically associated with business. Often a plain 'sukcesi' might serve. 'Kompetenti' opens another approach
tommjames (프로필 보기) 2012년 11월 30일 오후 2:11:12
februaro (프로필 보기) 2012년 11월 30일 오후 3:49:17
I'd say 'venki'.
T0dd (프로필 보기) 2012년 11월 30일 오후 4:09:57
"I couldn't cope with the lack of ventilation in the room." / MI NE POVIS TOLERI LA MANKO DE AERUMO EN LA ĈAMBRO.
In the positive sense, we might say something like, "The medicine helped me to cope with the pain." / LA MEDIKAMENTO HELPIS MIN TOLERI/ELTENI LA DOLORON.
I guess we might say VENKI LA DOLORON or even TRAPENI LA DOLORON, but to me these expressions add something to the basic idea of coping.
matrix (프로필 보기) 2012년 11월 30일 오후 4:24:16
EldanarLambetur:I've been using "lukti" as a translation for "to cope" (effectively deal with something difficult).In this meaning, “to cope” may be translated by elturniĝi or helpi sin.
Miland (프로필 보기) 2012년 12월 9일 오전 11:13:44
scorpjke (프로필 보기) 2012년 12월 9일 오후 11:06:00
erinja (프로필 보기) 2012년 12월 10일 오전 12:09:58
scorpjke (프로필 보기) 2012년 12월 10일 오전 9:34:08
erinja:venki for "cope"? That doesn't make sense to me at all.Hm... actually yeah, I guess you're right. I didn't think this through.
By the way, the words "elteni" and "elporti" that were mentioned about are pure loan translations from the Russian words "выдержать" and "вынести", respectively, that don't make sense either
