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Kiuj sounds like Kiwi?

од Alkanadi, 19. август 2014.

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Alkanadi (Погледати профил) 19. август 2014. 07.38.35

Just to be clear, does Kiuj sound like Kiwi (the fruit)?

nornen (Погледати профил) 19. август 2014. 07.40.06

Alkanadi:Just to be clear, does Kiuj sound like Kiwi (the fruit)?
No, it does not. The i and the u are in different syllables and they are both full vowels. The j is supposed to be a consonant.
It is pronounced like "key" (sxlosilo) and "uy" like in Spanish "muy".
So basically something like ['ki.uj] (which is just the Esperanto word in square brackets, lol).

sudanglo (Погледати профил) 19. август 2014. 09.00.05

For the uj think of the vowel sound in 'cooee' (is anybody there?), but keep the 'ee' short

Now add 'kee' in front stressing it. So KEE-ooee.

The sound of 'Kiwi' (the fruit) in Esperanto would be kiŭi

Miland (Погледати профил) 19. август 2014. 10.37.06

Alkanadi:Just to be clear, does Kiuj sound like Kiwi (the fruit)?
No, because the second syllable of kiuj (i.e. uj) is a diphthong, of which the first part is a pure vowel u. Your lips should be rounded when pronouncing it (more than when saying kiwi).

kaŝperanto (Погледати профил) 19. август 2014. 11.18.00

I second the recommendation for "key" and "uy".

(My darned brain typed both of those with the 'j' the first time)

sergejm (Погледати профил) 19. август 2014. 13.06.48

Listen:kiuj

Alkanadi (Погледати профил) 19. август 2014. 14.01.11

sergejm:Listen:kiuj
Thanks. That really helps. It sounds like Key-oo-ee

Fenris_kcf (Погледати профил) 19. август 2014. 14.35.22

Alkanadi:It sounds like Key-oo-ee
No, like "kiuj".
Using English orthography to clarify the pronunciation of a word is like eating soup with a fork — works to a certain degree, but is definitely the wrong tool for it.

nornen (Погледати профил) 19. август 2014. 17.05.04

Fenris_kcf:
Alkanadi:It sounds like Key-oo-ee
No, like "kiuj".
Using English orthography to clarify the pronunciation of a word is like eating soup with a fork — works to a certain degree, but is definitely the wrong tool for it.
QFT

sparksbet (Погледати профил) 19. август 2014. 19.27.31

Fenris_kcf:
Using English orthography to clarify the pronunciation of a word is like eating soup with a fork — works to a certain degree, but is definitely the wrong tool for it.
While obviously Esperanto words are best represented in their own orthography, I defy you to name the "right" tool (or any other tool, for that matter) for clarifying pronunciation in writing to a monolingual English speaker who doesn't know the IPA.

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