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de zazi, 10 de setembro de 2014

Mensagens: 19

Idioma: English

sergejm (Mostrar o perfil) 11 de setembro de 2014 11:40:35

Я вспомнил, что (я) (не) закрыл дверь.
Mi rememoris, ke mi (ne) ŝlosis la pordon.
I have remembered that I have (not) locked the door

Без 'что' никак - oni ne povas diri ĉi tion sen 'что' ('ke' ) - they cannot say it without 'что' ('what' )

zazi (Mostrar o perfil) 11 de setembro de 2014 20:12:29

First another question: Is there a difference between memori and rememori? Isn't the re redundant in this case?

And regarding my original question: "Sometimes I remember to do that."

I mean it in the sense of, for example, "I know I should eat breakfast every morning. Sometimes I remember to do that." (Though usually I don't.)

erinja (Mostrar o perfil) 11 de setembro de 2014 20:16:09

Rememori is to remember again. Sometimes you remember something more than once!

sergejm (Mostrar o perfil) 12 de setembro de 2014 04:51:37

Mi scias, ke (mi devas matenmanĝi|mi matenmanĝu|necesas matenmanĝi) ĉiumatene. (Iam|Iufoje|Kelkfoje) mi rememoras, ke mi faru tion (aŭ oni memor(ig)as al mi fari tion).
memori - put to memory and keep there, as a file in the computer.
rememori - get from memory, as if you accidentally found the file in the computer.
forgesi - forget, as if you delete the file. But you can get it back from the trash.

sudanglo (Mostrar o perfil) 12 de setembro de 2014 11:52:06

In Esperanto the prefix re- has both the meaning of 'back' as in I gave back the money I borrowed (mi redonis la monon) and the meaning of 'repeat' as in retake the test (refari la teston).

Sometimes it is a bit imponderable as to which meaning applies.

Rememori could be to remember again or to recall a memory. And this distinction is a fine one.

The PIV definition of rememori seems to call on both meanings - reveki, prezenti denove al si en la menso. Rememorigi is (helpfully!) defined as memorigi.

In the case of remembering to lock the door as opposed to forgetting to lock the door, I would use memori.

But to translate 'that reminds me of the time when I forgot to lock the door and ..', I might use rememorigi

zazi (Mostrar o perfil) 12 de setembro de 2014 16:59:27

Thanks all!

For what it's worth the Lernu! Eo-English dictionary has the exact same definition for both memori (to remember, to recollect, to recall) and rememori (to recall, to remember, to recollect).

It lists rememorigi = to recall, and memorigi = to remind.

malbirdo (Mostrar o perfil) 12 de setembro de 2014 17:08:07

Kак перевести на Эсперанто
речевой оборот...
How to translate to Esperanto...

Пусть вымоют пол.
Have the floor washed.

Necere lavi la plankon.
Aŭ Estas necere lavi la plankon.

nornen (Mostrar o perfil) 12 de setembro de 2014 19:17:32

malbirdo:Kак перевести на Эсперанто
речевой оборот...
How to translate to Esperanto...

Пусть вымоют пол.
Have the floor washed.

Necere lavi la plankon.
Aŭ Estas necere lavi la plankon.
I don't know the root "necer". Maybe you meant "neces"?

Necesas lavi la plankon. = It is necessary to wash the floor.
Estas necese lavi la plankon. = It is necessary to wash the floor.
Lavu la plankon. = Wash the floor. (imperative, jussive)

sergejm (Mostrar o perfil) 13 de setembro de 2014 16:31:07

Пусть вымоют пол!
Let they wash the floor!
Oni lavu la plankon!

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