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Ironchef (プロフィールを表示) 2009年3月27日 17:27:00
The children thought that freedom was a neat idea, even though it was something we had taken for granted for years..
Dankegon
tommjames (プロフィールを表示) 2009年3月27日 17:46:48
Ironchef:Can I please get some help on how this English idiom can be translated so that the intent of the phrase is retained:My dictionary has the following entry which appears to be a direct equivalent:
The children thought that freedom was a neat idea, even though it was something we had taken for granted for years..
Dankegon
• premisi v. 1. posit v. 2. presuppose v. 3. take granted v. (for)
Other than that, according to the context I would probably go with various antaŭsupozi constructions along the lines of what Novico Dektri suggested.
Miland (プロフィールを表示) 2009年3月27日 19:05:04
Ironchef:Can I please get some help on how this English idiom can be translatedHere's one attempt:
The children thought that freedom was a neat idea, even though it was something we had taken for granted for years..
La infanoj opiniis ke libereco estas bona ideo, kvankam ni jam prenis ĝin kiel naturan dum kelkaj jaroj.
erinja (プロフィールを表示) 2009年3月27日 23:33:17
I also agree on the geinfanoj thing; infano is definitely neutral, ge- is unnecessary unless you're trying to make a strong point (and in this case, we don't even know for a fact that the group of children is mixed, boys and girls)
Chainy (プロフィールを表示) 2011年5月25日 0:27:37
tommjames:Just to add to this, CEED has senplue akcepti for take for granted.Yes, I've just come across this one in the Wells dictionary. It seems a bit weird to me, to be honest! I wonder if it's ok?
There are a limited number of results for that in Google.
How about this?:
Rigardi/preni ion kiel memkompreneblan = to take something for granted.
sudanglo (プロフィールを表示) 2011年5月25日 9:10:17
Perhaps 'akceptis senpripense' would do for this sentence.
Trickier is the translation of 'neat'. How about 'originala kaj aprobinda' rather than the bland 'bona'
Do - Por la infanoj la ideo de libero estis originala kaj plene aprobinda, se tamen de ni longe akceptita senpripense.
ceigered (プロフィールを表示) 2011年5月25日 9:45:04
Ironchef:Can I please get some help on how this English idiom can be translated so that the intent of the phrase is retained:How about "konsideri (ion) kiel rajto", for the contexts where appropriate?
The children thought that freedom was a neat idea, even though it was something we had taken for granted for years..
Dankegon
